How's the Forest Fire Season in your neck of the woods?

Are you terming "arson" as a substitute for "man made fire" which a percentage of forest fires have always been since recorded info? Haven't seen a single arson report on the 4 or 500 fires on the go.

You might be getting your news from a bad source and should probably do some verification before crying wolf or foul. Out of respect for those affected with losses and to stop inflammatory misinformation. IMO

Prayers all get out of their situations ok.
 
That would be the city version of a forest fire inside Surrey? Are you just being obtuse, to quote a famous movie line? Is moderation required? Tom, what do you think? Trying for quality on the Buzz.
 
Any folks in that area, can you speak to the composition of the forest and if that’s changed over time, and possibly a contributor to bigger fires? I.E. are plantation conifers actually much different than what the forests looked like decades ago? And are plantation conifers more of a fire hazard? That’s been a speaking point that’s been covered in mainstream media but wondering if someone who has a bit more in depth experience with forests in that area could shine some light.
 
You guys that live in areas that just get smoke really are missing out. It is really exciting living in the woods and seeing that there is a red flag warning in your area. Or even better, when a fire is burning within miles of your home and the fire fighters stop by and look around and see if they feel that they can defend it. The looks on their faces at our place encouraged me to move my stuff to a storage unit in town one year.

Last year wasn’t as scary as some past years. This year seems scarier because our road which was quiet for the last 3 years is much busier with people heading up to a reservoir and campground that just reopened last fall. Lots of shooting, uninformed driving, and general stupidity. As always, fingers crossed we make it through to another rainy season.
 
That would be the city version of a forest fire inside Surrey? Are you just being obtuse, to quote a famous movie line? Is moderation required? Tom, what do you think? Trying for quality on the Buzz.

Bart,
You are calling for me to be censored so I suspect attempting to communicate with you is pointless.

It is difficult for me to grasp how I have offended you so.
I'm also not that interested in hearing how, so don't explain it on my behalf.

I suspect you are ideologically possessed.

I doubt you will watch it but here is a link to a documentary about mass psychosis that I found very interesting. Maybe you will find it informative and perhaps if you watch it you won't ask I be excommunicated.

As the conversation has moved on, I would gladly bow out.
 
The Donnie Creek fire in BC is a big problem. Set a record. Poor buggers in Edson evacuated for a forest fire then flooded. New normal. :(

Still 400+ fires on the go.
 

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1500 foreign firefighters in Canada right now. Don't know if this is historically typical. We're forecast for some Quebec smoke Sunday. We get air quality warnings mid summer from city smog. If you're at a rise and can see some distance the sky fades to a brown tint in the distance.

One time I flew in from Calgary, clean mountain air, clean high altitude air in the plane and when I exited the plane into that tunnel I thought " Man, they sure need to clean these stale old carpets." As I progressed into the terminal the stench was still present "Man, here too..." When I exited the far side of the terminal into the open air I realized the whole city stunk! Hot, mid summer day in Toronto.

On the other hand, both on Vancouver Island and in Banff I've been inundated by direct forest fire smoke. In Banff the smoke was thicker the higher up you went. Wrecked that family outing :(
 
It’s bad all the way down into the mountains here.

I’m disappointed. I was hoping I would get some pro insight on the why’s and how’s of this from some folks in the industry up there. Having some box fan hack is handy but it’s just making your seat on the life raft more comfortable. Why did the titanic sink?

We are talking trees, we are talking forests. Do we really know nothing about what is making this so particularly bad right now?

I’m not about to normalize not being able to go outside. Wtf. The rainwater on the entire globe is now poisoned with plastic too.
 
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It’s bad all the way down into the mountains here.

I’m disappointed. I was hoping I would get some pro insight on the why’s and how’s of this from some folks in the industry up there. Having some box fan hack is handy but it’s just making your seat on the life raft more comfortable. Why did the titanic sink?

We are talking trees, we are talking forests. Do we really know nothing about what is making this so particularly bad right now?

I’m not about to normalize not being able to go outside. Wtf. The rainwater on the entire globe is now poisoned with plastic too.
We have been very lucky so far this year. Im not saying this as a smartass, but I'm glad the rest of the country is getting a taste of what we have been dealing with for the past 5 years or so. It's time to adapt, this is getting worse and not better.
I hit a wall a few years ago. Up in a tree on the top of a 300' cliff, choking on smoke doing some view pruning... Only the mountains were not out that day due to the sea of yellow brown smoke thick as a dense fog. I wanted to disconnect and swan out of the tree and down to the rocks below.
We need to adapt, there is no going backwards and this IS the new normal. The question is do we allow it to get worse? This is why I'm happy the rest of the country is experiencing what has become normal here.

The first time I stood up to my Dad, was when he offered to let me light off the trash fire. Old carpet, foam, plastic bags full of packing peanuts... He proudly handed me the tin can of diesel and the box of matches. I refused them, and said something like "Do you want me to have to wear a gas mask by the time I'm your age?"..... He got PISSED, and I could see the internal struggle of trying not to smack me. A instant later, he softened. Told me I was right and we loaded up the shit into the truck to haul it to the dump... Look at us now, when covid hit we already had a leftover stash of N95's from the previous summer, and I was already getting use to working while wearing a mask.

We are being Gaslit on the blame, not that we don't have blood on our hands. But the only thing we can do is change what we do personally. I've taken to shifting my business to climate mitigation work, using arboriculture as a tool. There is now no such thing as a natural environment, we have the choice of blundering along as a industry capitalizing, or make thoughtful changes to our environments to make them more resilient.

We have started planting with a tactical specie assisted migration plan. Installing passive rainwater systems, culling and fire mitigation work... I need to do more, much more but its the begging of what I'm shifting into.
 
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The only gotcha statistic I've picked out is the average fire size this year is larger, something like 20 square km vs either 3 or 7 I can't remember. Thousands of fires per season. Basically they say it's dry conditions, lightning storm presto. Weather channel guy held up and snapped some crisp twigs and said "rainforest(?)". Also campfire etc twits. Canada has already broken it's yearly burnt acreage record and fire season is supposed to peak in September. Cripes
 
The only gotcha statistic I've picked out is the average fire size this year is larger, something like 20 square km vs either 3 or 7 I can't remember. Thousands of fires per season. Basically they say it's dry conditions, lightning storm presto. Weather channel guy held up and snapped some crisp twigs and said "rainforest(?)". Also campfire etc twits. Canada has already broken it's yearly burnt acreage record and fire season is supposed to peak in September. Cripes
FAWK
 
I'm just curious and I know its a sensitive subject but have any of you guys looked into, or considered the effect Geoengineering has on the forrest, soil and water in relation to fires? Do you think it's a conspiracy theory or fake news? If you don't know much about it, would you be willing to read information about it with a relatively open mind? I'm just curious about how people in our profession are so aware of the environment but often poopoo any "fringe" narrative. I read an interesting article today about how the smoke flow in the northern hemisphere is in contrast to the Coriolis Effect and a plausible reason. This is an honest question. I'm always curious where people stand on stuff. I'm not trying to debate this either way. I'm just curious if you think its a legitimate possibility or a bunch of bullshit, and are you open to the idea?
 
I'm just curious and I know its a sensitive subject but have any of you guys looked into, or considered the effect Geoengineering has on the forrest, soil and water in relation to fires?
I'm 42, lived in southern Ontario my whole life, we are hundreds and hundreds of miles from these fires. This is farming country. I've never seen smoke like this here. Thick, smelly, get in your lungs smoke. Blotting out the sun smoke. Keep your kids inside today smoke.
I don't know what the official narrative is because I don't have tv, but something seems off. We've had 2 separate multi-day incidents now, with tons of rain in between them. I don't know how it's possible for that much smoke to travel that far without dissipating. Doesn't make sense to me.
 

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