how many of you rep jesus at work?

Re: Born-again . . . and again . . . and again

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Hey I'll just stay involved. Make this my new favorite. As a traditional Mennonite preacher's kid I have some pretty strong opinions and understanding. Really though, isn't there other places for preaching. So no your not good and I'm evil just a person who want's to make this thread so unpleasant it goes away as soon as possible.

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Dude,
It's a new day, might be your last, do you really want to waste your time with this?
 
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so how can we apply these concepts in the work place to make it a more enjoyable experience for all?

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A good and important question.

Employer or Co-worker:
What do you need from me so that we can get along well?

What type of learning/ working environment is your ideal?

How do you like to be treated?

Are you a joker type that easily talks smack back and forth and laughs though the day, or maybe prefers more traditionally "civil" interactions?

Does anything in particular offend you/ strike you badly?

How do you best learn and teach others?

If you were the boss, what would be the top 3 things that you'd do differently?

What are things that you like about how things are going?

You can always talk to me about what is on your mind. I love getting feedback. It makes the workplace more effective, comfortable and safe. There will never be any repercussions for feedback.

My door is always open.

I am open to agreeing to disagree if we have different opinions/ values?

What I want is a workplace that everyone feels safe, and we can be productive and perform high quality work at a fair price, so we all win--employer/ employee/ customer/ and all the future customers from our great referrals and references.

I'm open to debate topics, and anyone should be able to say, "Let's stop talking about this now. I'd rather switch subjects".



Make sure that nobody is scapegoated and that employees always know that they can come to you with any issues, and you will do your best to resolve them fairly, independent of your personal feeling on it/ judiciously.



ArchDruid--you are a funny guy!

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My thoughts exactly Sean.
 
so today i totally didn't rep jesus at work :-0 i totally got fired for going of on the ring master of the three ring circus! it was hilarious........ we were in the middle of taking down to 5' dbh water oaks over a busy street (4 lanes) no crane as we had plenty of room behind us to fell them so i'm clearing back weight and all the sudden he starts calling for me to come down says i'm going to slow. this guy has never climbed a tree and is an office monkey; plus he wouldn't let me work the tree my way! we have nine hours bid on the job and i'm 2 hours into it with drive time 45min. so i'm debating on quitting while descending. i hit the ground and he starts going off; so i quit. he still keeps going off. so for those of you that don't know me "I'M NOT THE ONE!" so i start going off; next thing i know my hands and hips are making thrusting motions while i say f you screaming at the top of my lungs repeatedly while all the guys cheer me on! his jaw hit the floor lmao! its the only time he didn't have anything to say. what a relief i've been wanting to quit for like two months. forgive me lord. and i'm already booked for the next two days contract climbing. thank you lord. and i got a call for some side work the man upstairs is mysterious
 
i know right! i wish i was a better writer the back story and that story is so much better than it is written

this guy is dumb i've made that company more money since june than they made in any summer with regular day to day tree work since they have been in business
good company but dumb managers
 
do unto others as you would have them do unto you.... its a simple sayin... no need to try to twist the meaning... it means treat others with respect, be honest with them, be fair to them. its not a selfish thing at all.. there will always be people in this world who will lie to you and cheat you but when judgment day arrives im not responsible for other peoples actions.... i will only have to answer for the way i treated people..... there is a god guys whether you believe it or not! i can spend the rest of my life telling people that air doesen't exist, i can't see it so i don't believe it exists. doesent change the fact that im surrounded by it.
 
Right and wrong are human constructs that came about as a survival strategy. Firstly we do what is "right" for us as individuals but we also do what is good or right for others as it will enhance our chance of survival and the ability to procreate. We can do this intuitively based on past experience and the ability to rationalize.

To me this could easily have "evolved" over time and as our communications skilled developed the written word the morals were then laid down. Considering who was educated and entrusted with recordkeeping it's no surprise that this became associated with religion.

But that's just my HO.......


Back to the workplace. Tolerance is the word, it is very difficult to make judgments without bias based on our own background but as a society it is paramount that we do in order to survive and adapt to the realities of the existing world.
 
Proverbs 16:2 All the ways of a man are clean in his own sight, But the LORD weighs the motives.
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Proverbs 24:12 If you say, "See, we did not know this," Does He not consider it who weighs the hearts? And does He not know it who keeps your soul? And will He not render to man according to his work?
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Luke 16:15 And He said to them, "You are those who justify yourselves in the sight of men, but God knows your hearts; for that which is highly esteemed among men is detestable in the sight of God. (NASB ©1995)
 
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so today i totally didn't rep jesus at work :-0 i totally got fired for going of on the ring master of the three ring circus! it was hilarious........ we were in the middle of taking down to 5' dbh water oaks over a busy street (4 lanes) no crane as we had plenty of room behind us to fell them so i'm clearing back weight and all the sudden he starts calling for me to come down says i'm going to slow. this guy has never climbed a tree and is an office monkey; plus he wouldn't let me work the tree my way! we have nine hours bid on the job and i'm 2 hours into it with drive time 45min. so i'm debating on quitting while descending. i hit the ground and he starts going off; so i quit. he still keeps going off. so for those of you that don't know me "I'M NOT THE ONE!" so i start going off; next thing i know my hands and hips are making thrusting motions while i say f you screaming at the top of my lungs repeatedly while all the guys cheer me on! his jaw hit the floor lmao! its the only time he didn't have anything to say. what a relief i've been wanting to quit for like two months. forgive me lord. and i'm already booked for the next two days contract climbing. thank you lord. and i got a call for some side work the man upstairs is mysterious

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LOL!
Those guys will never miss you.
 
i won't miss them ether, but i will miss that steady paycheck! oh well i'm moving to nashville in a couple of weeks hopefully something will open up there.
 
and the guy is a serious prick. he thinks everything should be done at a dead run. no thinking just cut and hope for the best. ahhh well off to do some large oak prunes. peace n chicken grease
 
Did you see the Job Costing article in TCIA this month? He says big companies can make more money per job if they use crews of two instead of three! WOW! Smart guy for someone who's probably never loaded a single round on a dumptruck.

THIS is what's wrong. Maybe you can use less man hours to do a job with a crew of two... but you're askinbg them to press themselves hard to do it... ask them to do that everyday and you destroy morale, undermine safety, raise contempt for management and pit crews AGAINST salesmen and each other.

Only when it comes to money is it OK to just toss balance and quality of life out the window. Cost accountants have no business dictating or even recommending crew size unless they've worked on a crew for at least a year. Load rounds with two guys, then load'em with three... it's EASY to see why three is better than two.

The crew should be matched to the job but not in such a way that they have to perform above and beyond every day just to meet quota.

That's screwed up and basically amounts to economic extortion... jobs are scarce, lots of companies figure it's OK to overwork and burn people out... "lot's more where THEY came from... just dumb tree guys after all, not smart like us educated types". Supply and demand and all that... the bad economy makes it OK to abuse people. Hell, we should have bad economies more often... I'll bet we can get people to work for a dollar an hour if we keep this up! Think of how many yachts that would buy if every wage EARNER would just work for a dollar less per hour. We can tell'em the economy is THEIR fault and THEY have to tighten THEIR belts so we can all get along. Works every time.

MBA's are the most pathetic business people on the planet. Business isn't about stockholders, that's an aberration born of greed. Companies and business are about people....employees, customers, people that are present, active and actually have an interest OTHER than just money.

The article does have good points and I'm FOR job costing, I had to do a lot of it as an engineer and project manager. Right sizing jobs and focusing on profitable markets for instance... good stuff. ...and it doesn't cost anybody their happiness and love for their work.

But the downsizing the crew thing... that kind of optimization has negative long term implications that don't show up on any financials.



Oh yeah, the reason this is here and not behind the desk is I'm trying to uphold the off-topic thing and because that's the kinda guy Jeff just failed to rep Jesus to. If you haven't been on a crew, don't be telling crews HOW to do anything... you can tell'em WHAT, WHEN, WHY, WHO... but not HOW.
 
well i heard from the guys on my crew today they called and said the three ring circus is worse than normal now that i'm not there to act as a buffer. wow! my day was great. its nice working for people who appreciate your hard work and talents.
 
ohh and derail on in full effect. thats what this thread needed was some good ol fashioned derailing
 
You better hope someone doesnt report you Tom for making there workplace a hostile enviroment because they have to hear the name Jesus.All wait thats another 10 years down the road.
 
Good stuff. That does it, I'm going to the Northern Lights Bluegrass Fest this weekend.
I didn't know you Americans were so crazy for Jesus. I thought Elvis, Johnny Cash, and Dylan just needed to take a break from the heavy stuff but it's for real down there eh.
Interesting, thank God I'm Canadian.
Johnny had this area confused with heaven when he'd come for holidays.
There's even a story around the north from a trapper who claims Johnny killed his brother.
It's turns out they were melting down his old albums and his brother was poisioned by a Johnny Cash album.
 

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