Hourly Rates

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No_Bivy

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Asheville,NC
What do most folks charge for hourly man hour rates? Does additional equipment have an additional cost, IE: truck, chipper, skid steer, crane,dump fees, etc...
 
We try to get $65 hr + hauling & dump fees for general work. Rates go up for anything technical or if bucket, crane, skid loader, or grapple truck need to get involved.

I know another co. in town whose rates are between 85-95 hr+haul&dump. Unfortunately we are not quite established enough to be charging these rates on a regular basis.
 
yes 65 per man---It just depends how many people are required to perform the job. I'll add a couple hundred additional if we use a mini skid....Rarely use a large unit so don't really know what i'd charge.....
 
I had a customer recently who complained about 100per hour for a bandit 1590, boxer miniskid w/grapple, truck, and one man for lot clean-up. Two trips to dump at 30$ each, total of 1600 for two full days. I thought it was a good deal, they wigged. Thanks for your info, this price seems fair.
 
Depending on the job No Bivy, twice that wouldn't be terribly off IMO. On the job I am currently contract chipping I am charging a little less for a Bandit 200 and 1 worker. With a mini skid truck and grapple, on this job I could charge twice what I am charging now.
 
I knew I wasn't to far off. These folks have several vintage Ferrari autos in thier garage. I fiqure they like to give the little guy a hard time to see if I'll give up.
I hope I get to play with a 100 ton sometime, several jobs with 70 ton already. Big lifts are exciting. My biggest bottom line was 4200.
 
It just takes time/connections/reputations. Before I turned 20 I used a 175 ton, either right before or after I turned 20 I broke into a 5 figure bottome line, doing the job with a broke wrist! 3 months later I set a new record for a single tree removals bottom line.

Just takes time man, I figure dont look for big jobs, let them look for you. In the mean while plug away at the day to day.


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Rates:

GTW

Residential: $85/hour per man.

Commercial: $100/hour per man

Bucket Truck: $200/day (65'), $250/day (75')

Crane: (we have a 100') $350/day

PHC

Fert: $200/hour

IPM/PHC $250/hour

Merit injection $400/hour



NOTE: The Company I work for is doing close to 3 Million a year in sales an hour north of NYC.
 
We have to make about $62/hr to cover costs (including the salary we take from the company). That's working on the basis of an 8 hour day, 5 days per week, 52 weeks per year.

As we are right now, we basically have to gross $130K per year to cover all costs. $130 000.01 to profit. :)
 
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Aggressive.

I budget and calculate on about 125 days of production.
 
so regardless of the type of work, you guys charge by man hours?? and amount of time spent at the job site??

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Mangoes: I basically do the same. I figured I only work 9 months out of the year due to the winter slowing things down , rain days, sick days, windy days (they can blow out here), estimate days, kids sick & wife sick days, etc...
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I guess that was basically my point. Sorry, should have been clearer. That is agressive, and let's fact it, completely unrealistic. It's good to know what you need to make per hour to profit/cover costs, but it's hard to judge it sometimes on an hourly rate (though of course you need one or how the heck to you price?). I've been a bookkeeper for a long time, and I've found that for all companies, those hourly, daily, weekly budgets go out the window and what matters is what you do per year, and what that breaks down to per month. In a seasonal business, some months you profit, some months you run at a loss (based on your fixed costs). At the end of the year - did you make money.

Okay, over. LOL I know the point of your thread and I took it a little sideways.
 
I try to put togrther weeks with a predicted grsoss income with an eye on my monthly. The hourly rate is god for an estimate but you need to take into account how much quicker you may be able to do it than someone else. I dont like hourly rate jobs. I aleays find I could have made out better with a straight price.
 
I am with Allmark here. Hourly jobs seem like they always lead to discrepancies(sp?). My competition bids stuff at 165 an hour for 2 man crew with bucket. I am at 200 solo w/whatever equipment up to seventy five foot bucket.. I have plenty of work. I consistantly sell jobs for more $$ than my comp because I don't just hand them a slip with a figure. I go out of my way to outline and explain the scope and detail of my proposal. People(the people you want) will shop quality(value) over price. You get what you pay for.
 
I guess what I mean to say is that I have tried to tighten up the specs on my proposals; whereas some of my old proposals might read simply- remove deadwood.
I have been of late trying to implement the ANSI A300 specs which provide a much more detailed description of what you actually are going to do in addition to just "deadwood".
Hope that clears that up for you.
I will further go on to say that although I am aiming for that lofty per hour goal- it doesn't always work out that way. By tightening up my specs as well I don't have that "am I gonna get paid here?" feeling.
 
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