homemade rope guide

[countryboypa31]

very simple and looks very nice! one other thing, not sure exactly if this would work but its an idea i had. What do you think about using the petzl swivel in place of the pulley, this way you wouldn't get twist in your line, just instead of it being on your saddle its at your TIP. Wondering if this isn't a good idea because of the sharp bend that the rope would take over the swivel. I use the master saddle and separated connection points on the saddle thats why i ask. Guess the other thing that would spoil this idea besides the sharp bend would be that the swivel wouldn't fit thru the large ring! then scratch that. Well what do you think?

 

[Treespotter]

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If it needs replacing. http://www.climb-art.com/recall_action.htm

Treespotter gave us this as well.

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Did you dig that up in the old image shack?

After climbing on a pulley (in different contraptions) for a couple of years I went back to using the old school double ring cambium/friction saver. I realized that no friction at all isn't as good as it looks.
The friction has to go somewhere. This means it either damages the friction hitch more than necessary. Or when you climb up you have to use more force to 'lock up' your elbow. Either to pull the slack out of the rope or when using the long prussic to push the prussic up.

Another advantage is that the double ring FS almost always in one move 'flies' out of the treetop (something that bugged me more and more using a pulley FS.

 

[BobT]

The axle of the pulley is the pin that closes the shackle. What is there to prevent friction between the rotating sheave and the pin from unscrewing the pin?

 

[Shawn]

Is this something anyone could make easily? Nick perhaps? Id be interested in having one made, but I cant splice. Any idea how much one would cost to have made? Takers?

 

[Shawn]

Anyone know where I can get the ring and pulley for a ropeguide from? Does Sherrill or Wespur sell them as replacement parts? Preferably without paying an arm and a leg.

 

[Mahk_Adams]

The ring is the standard large ring from a friction saver. They are available from Sherrill and many other arborist supply houses.

The pulley that is shown in the ealy attachments in this thread is from an early version of the RG. The RG currently comes with a small block. The block is available from Greg Good, maker of the Good Rigging Control System (GRCS). You can find Greg's contact info in any of the ads for the GRCS.

 

[KentuckySawyer]

Up until recently I've climbed primarily using ring type friction savers. Curiosity with a rope guide style FS has led me to create this rope guide. I've used it several times, with fairly good success at retrieval.

I'm looking for insight from experienced RG users as to potential problems I might encounter with this setup.

Inside the hollow portion of the 16 strand Blue Streak in the large eye, is a piece of rubber tubing. Inside the tube is a piece of wire rope. So far its helping to open the eye. Over time I imagine the wire rope will break down and become less effective.

I had seen a RG where the halyard shackle was connected to a ring above the prussic. On mine, its on the prussic (it was just easier to put on that way). But it actually might help with retrieval in instances where the prussic/pulley pull through the wide eye splice. The second image shows how the ring streamlines the klemheist as it pulls it down the host line.

Also a quick plug for my new favorite rope/hitch combo. 1/2" Blue Streak with 8mm Oceans. Works nice with the RG.

 

[KentuckySawyer]

The retrieval position.

 

[countryboypa31]

I like it, way to make good on what you already got.

 

[KyLimbwalker]

When you perfect the design, I'm going to need one.

 

[rangerdanger]

I'll have to post the RG I just made. I used a steel ring on mine though. Been having a few retrieval problems, but it's all getting worked out.

I like the ring on the knot for retrieval. Have to give it a try soon.

 

[KentuckySawyer]

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When you perfect the design, I'm going to need one.

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Shut up, or I'll nunchuck you in the face and steal your latte.

 

[KevinS]

TL your 2nd ring to ring RG looks smooth I'm just having trouble wrapping my head around the retrival could you help me out on that one? Thanks

Kevin

 

[rangerdanger]

Have to thank Cory for the idea to put the ring attached to the retrieval snap on the knot. So far, it's retrieved a lot better than the other two set ups I had.

 

[Tree-Taylor]

How are these set from the ground?

 

[rangerdanger]

They can't really be set from the ground. You enter the tree and climb up to your tie in, and install it.

There is a way to set it from the ground, but it's way complicated and really not worth the effort.

 

[Drew]

its actually pretty easy, uses just one throwline like setting a cambium saver. the trickier bit is installing the rope through the retrieval clip. ill get some pics when i get the chance.

 

[Tree-Taylor]

Cool looking foreward to it.

 

[Drew]

the steps in setting from the ground but without the retrieval shackle-thats a bit more complicated i find so generally dont bother, i just clip it in once i get there.

 

[Drew]

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