Hitch hiker/2/x thread

I've broken plenty of stuff with multiple layers of double-wall, adhesive lined Polyolefin shrink tubing on it... which requires a lot of heat. The rope breaks at the end of the splice just like every other one I break. You really don't think rope OEMs and splicing shops have been doing this for decades and never noticed whether or not it harms the rope, do you? Once you get the hang of it, you'll discover that the rope never gets to 300* F and you won't need to worry about it... keep the gun a few inches away from the tubing and avoid the temptation to hold it less than two inches away. If you lack the patience for this, you probably shouldn't be splicing in the first place.

I'm starting to worry about you, Joey... are you getting enough sleep, or are you up all night checking to make sure Bigfoot isn't lurking about in grandma's prized Azalia bushes?
 
If bigfoot IS in the bushes, you had better damn well know! Isn't this thread about the hitch hikers? We sure do get off track around here.
 
JeffGu said:
I've broken plenty of stuff with multiple layers of double-wall, adhesive lined Polyolefin shrink tubing on it... which requires a lot of heat. The rope breaks at the end of the splice just like every other one I break. You really don't think rope OEMs and splicing shops have been doing this for decades and never noticed whether or not it harms the rope, do you? Once you get the hang of it, you'll discover that the rope never gets to 300* F and you won't need to worry about it... keep the gun a few inches away from the tubing and avoid the temptation to hold it less than two inches away. If you lack the patience for this, you probably shouldn't be splicing in the first place.

I'm starting to worry about you, Joey... are you getting enough sleep, or are you up all night checking to make sure Bigfoot isn't lurking about in grandma's prized Azalia bushes?
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Hahahaha.. that's awesome!! Fear not Jeff! Big foot hasn't gotten me yet!! I'm not much for conspiracy's, I'm more on the lookout for the Abominable Snowman & Space Aliens.. ;)

Have i given the impression i lack the patience or don't know how to shrink some silly tubing, lmao.. I have the damn hang of it... I was just wondering about it.. I don't have a temp gun but I do have a heat gun so i have always wondered how hot things are actually getting.. to me it feels pretty dang hot even when being patient/careful.. However, your saying yours never pass 300°F? Ok.. thanks, that's useful info.

Regarding splicing houses? Ehhh.. IDK.. Trust them 100% of the time to not have some new kid shrinking terminations? Whether it's as rare as Bigfoot or Space Aliens, i garantee it's a scenario that has happened.. & as an end user how do you tell..
You know what I'm saying..

Pm me your response if you want, if not no biggie, I'll be up all night on the lookout with my trusty tin foil hat!! Hahaha..
 
So i thought I'd check back in here & update.. This HHx device is pretty freaking awesome so far.. I feel as if this device has the ability to check all of "my" boxes without many caveats. Most of my concerns before purchasing regarding usage/design have been proven moot / N/A.. I thought tending in MRT without a dedicated attachment point higher up on device would lead to a real sloppy experience, nope not with this tool. I thought id end up needing additional pulleys, etc to get it dialed in, nope, so far so good..

All in all, i think this device should be in every beginners bag because you can learn both SRT & MRT or at the very least have the ability to do so if you want. At the same time, if your a beginner & kinda reliant on mechanicals, this device will help get you some experience with hitch cord & possibly help close that blind spot you may or may not have while maintaining a level of safety that's pretty hard to mess up.

Overall, when i compare this thing to all the other tools at my disposal, I'm pretty impressed.
 
For being such a small, responsive (I hate how the wrench behaves, comparatively), non-rope depended (works on most anything), hitch dependent (cross over from typical MRS), tuneable (different hitches or cordage), very robust, and cost-effective. I have a hard time understanding why it isn't more popular.
 
Tom Lynch said:
For being such a small, responsive (I hate how the wrench behaves, comparatively), non-rope depended (works on most anything), hitch dependent (cross over from typical MRS), tuneable (different hitches or cordage), very robust, and cost-effective. I have a hard time understanding why it isn't more popular.
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Not all climbers are fully educated, informed, or experienced when it comes to comparing multicenders. I've tried to summarize these subtle differences in this article I wrote about multicenders in general.
 
Tom Lynch said:
For being such a small, responsive (I hate how the wrench behaves, comparatively), non-rope depended (works on most anything), hitch dependent (cross over from typical MRS), tuneable (different hitches or cordage), very robust, and cost-effective. I have a hard time understanding why it isn't more popular.
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I can tell ya why. Its not shiny enough. It not pretty enough. Its not blingy enough. Its not the so-called latest and greatest design. What these fools don't seem to understand is that the HH is probably the best all-around and most versatile multicender on the market, and once dialed in it can offer a stunning level of performance.
 
John@TreeXP said:
Not all climbers are fully educated, informed, or experienced when it comes to comparing multicenders. I've tried to summarize these subtle differences in this article I wrote about multicenders in general.
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It seems we have similar taste in devices as the Runner and the HH have emerged as my top 2 picks also.

I have an HH2 out on loan right now but would like to offer it anyone else wanting to give the HHw2 a spin without having to spend the $. We could get a little list going and when someone is done with it they could simply ship it the next person in line. let me know if anyone is interested.
 
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Tom Lynch said:
... I have a hard time understanding why it isn't more popular.
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I believe that the answer is two fold. Primary is trying one and not being successful at dialing in the hitch. Such a shame. The other is climbers wanting a singular feature or aspect, such as having the climbing line fall through the device on ascent.

The HH just does everything well, other multisenders can exceed it in some areas but taken as a whole the HH is an extraordinary tool.
 
DSMc said:
The other is climbers wanting a singular feature or aspect, such as having the climbing line fall through the device on ascent.
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I would add that a finely tuned HH will eat slack as well or better than any friction based device I have tried. I believe the fact that is does not put a bend in the rope plays a big part in this.
 
That is a feature that is so under-appreciated. It also allows the HH to work and feel just the same, with no adjustments at 100' as it does at 10'.
 
I believe the rope wrench is the only srt device allowed at comps. I actually just ordered one because I want to give comps a try (never did one, never had a rope wrench) and I just can't see going mrs.
 
John@TreeXP said:
Not all climbers are fully educated, informed, or experienced when it comes to comparing multicenders. I've tried to summarize these subtle differences in this article I wrote about multicenders in general.
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What's that little sentence talking about removing sap doing there when you're talking about burnt hitch cords?
 
RBJtree said:
I believe the rope wrench is the only srt device allowed at comps. I actually just ordered one because I want to give comps a try (never did one, never had a rope wrench) and I just can't see going mrs.
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Your gonna love the Wrench. Put a Michoacan under it and enjoy the buttery smooth ride.
 
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