Here's my dream set up, gear wise for Rec Tree Climbing...

Love this forum I used to rock climb in my teenage years I am now 42. I recently had a paint job that I had to climb a 32ft ladder, and needed to tie off. So i decided to use my rock climbing gear, now all I want to do is climb trees. I Have been buying equipment over the last month I just need to get a tree harness. All I have is a Petzl rock climbing harness, can't believe how expensive the tree harness cost. I also need to get a rope wrench of something else, I was looking at the new Akimbo that comes out soon. But or the price I see a member makes the Bulldog Bone, anyone have any suggestions. The thing about the rope wrench is it's really big and I want something compact.
 
Love this forum I used to rock climb in my teenage years I am now 42. I recently had a paint job that I had to climb a 32ft ladder, and needed to tie off. So i decided to use my rock climbing gear, now all I want to do is climb trees. I Have been buying equipment over the last month I just need to get a tree harness. All I have is a Petzl rock climbing harness, can't believe how expensive the tree harness cost. I also need to get a rope wrench of something else, I was looking at the new Akimbo that comes out soon. But or the price I see a member makes the Bulldog Bone, anyone have any suggestions. The thing about the rope wrench is it's really big and I want something compact.

1- Queue @TimBr
2- You’ve been climbing 1 month and you want to get an akimbo ? Slow down superstar. Learn the basics first
3- you can adapt a rock climbing harness to work as a tree climbing harness depending on your needs and requirements. The main 2 differences are a floating bridge and side D rings
 
Love this forum I used to rock climb in my teenage years I am now 42. I recently had a paint job that I had to climb a 32ft ladder, and needed to tie off. So i decided to use my rock climbing gear, now all I want to do is climb trees. I Have been buying equipment over the last month I just need to get a tree harness. All I have is a Petzl rock climbing harness, can't believe how expensive the tree harness cost. I also need to get a rope wrench of something else, I was looking at the new Akimbo that comes out soon. But or the price I see a member makes the Bulldog Bone, anyone have any suggestions. The thing about the rope wrench is it's really big and I want something compact.
Welcome to the forum! There are a number of us on here who are also rec climbers and relatively new to tree climbing, like yourself. I have been doing it about 1-1/2 years now and I bought a Bulldog Bone after about six months of hanging out on here. It is a compact, simple device, ruggedly made, easy to maintain, and works great. Surveyor is the guy. He makes an adjustable version which is quickly adaptable to a range of ropes. The device is very easy to mid-line attach. I recommend it. For recreational climbing, I am not sure the Akimbo would work that much better to justify the extra expense. Both work on roughly the same principle. As to saddles, a tree climbing harness costs a bit more but they are well worth it. And there are versions suitable for rec climbing which cost less. New Tribe makes a couple that are very comfortable and affordable, but simply lack some of the bells and whistles that a pro needs for serious tree work. For the actual climbing part of it, while it is important to learn your basic knots and such, a lot of us have moved pretty quickly to SRT and rope walking. Yoyoman, on here, makes a great knee ascender called a MiniSAKA which is very compact for hiking and backpacking, and is also easily shortened up for a foot ascender if you bought two of them (one on each foot and one left full length). At 42, if you are not as thin as you used to be, a chest roller is nice, to keep you upright on the rope without a lot of extra struggle. With my chest roller, Bone, and pair of SAKA's, I can literally walk up a rope hands-free. Also, you want to nail down what sort of lanyard works best for you. There are many possibilities but for sure you want to get used to using a lanyard throughout a climb. This is one of the things that makes it so safe. My final thought would be to see if there are any other climbers near you. There is nothing like shared experience, and it is safer and more fun too, to climb with others. Anyway, good luck and welcome aboard. Cheers, Stewart
 
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1- Queue @TimBr
2- You’ve been climbing 1 month and you want to get an akimbo ? Slow down superstar. Learn the basics first
3- you can adapt a rock climbing harness to work as a tree climbing harness depending on your needs and requirements. The main 2 differences are a floating bridge and side D rings

Believe me I am not rushing anything I have always had problems with buying gear with any new hobby. I used to review audio equipment for companies that usually send you equipment for free to review it. But I have always had G.A.S. (gear acquisition syndrome). I have seen a video on YouTube of a guy making side D-rings on a rock climbing harness. Thanks for the info, I have know problem spending money on things that I can always resell. But I also don't want to waste my money.
 
Welcome to the forum! There are a number of us on here who are also rec climbers and relatively new to tree climbing, like yourself. I have been doing it about 1-1/2 years now and I bought a Bulldog Bone after about six months of hanging out on here. It is a compact, simple device, ruggedly made, easy to maintain, and works great. Surveyor is the guy. He makes an adjustable version which is quickly adaptable to a range of ropes. The device is very easy to mid-line attach. I recommend it. For recreational climbing, I am not sure the Akimbo would work that much better to justify the extra expense. Both work on roughly the same principle. As to saddles, a tree climbing harness costs a bit more but they are well worth it. And there are versions suitable for rec climbing which cost less. New Tribe makes a couple that are very comfortable and affordable, but simply lack some of the bells and whistles that a pro needs for serious tree work. For the actual climbing part of it, while it is important to learn your basic knots and such, a lot of us have moved pretty quickly to SRT and rope walking. Yoyoman, on here, makes a great knee ascender called a MiniSAKA which is very compact for hiking and backpacking, and is also easily shortened up for a foor ascender if you bought two of them (one on each foot and one left full length). At 42, if you are not as thin as you used to be, a chest roller is nice, to keep you upright on the rope without a lot of extra struggle. With my chest roller, Bone, and pair of SAKA's, I can literally walk up a rope hands-free. Also, you want to nail down what sort of lanyard works best for you. There are many possibilities but for sure you want to get used to using a lanyard throughout a climb. This is one of the things that makes it so safe. My final thought would be to see if there are any other climbers near you. There is nothing like shared experience, and it is safer and more fun too, to climb with others. Anyway, good luck and welcome aboard. Cheers, Stewart


Yeah 42 would like to think I am in ok shape, one of the reasons for tree climbing to get into better shape. I do think I am going to go with the Bulldog thanks for all the info.
 
I have seen a video on YouTube of a guy making side D-rings on a rock climbing harness.
That would be TreeFool/ FluffyFish, the guy that posted before you :D

I started tree climbing 2 years ago, at age 13. My dad bought 60m of rope , a cheap rock climbing harness and a petzl grigri. He still had some carabiners laying around, so I had all the gear I needed to climb on a RAD system. I am still using the same RADS, but I bought a new harness (Slylotec Record), a few more carabiners and a lanyard. You dont have to buy expensive gear to get started. Maybe you find out that tree climbing is not for you after a few climbs, if you spent less money you are going to loose less money in that case.
 
That would be TreeFool/ FluffyFish, the guy that posted before you :D

I started tree climbing 2 years ago, at age 13. My dad bought 60m of rope , a cheap rock climbing harness and a petzl grigri. He still had some carabiners laying around, so I had all the gear I needed to climb on a RAD system. I am still using the same RADS, but I bought a new harness (Slylotec Record), a few more carabiners and a lanyard. You dont have to buy expensive gear to get started. Maybe you find out that tree climbing is not for you after a few climbs, if you spent less money you are going to loose less money in that case.
Starting out in my late 50s, I was driven to find and use the most efficient climbing system to use mainly on long ascents. Using a Rads setup put far to much demand on my upper body, whereas a rope walking system put the burden mostly on my legs, which is my preference. However, I agree that a climber can get climbing with a lot less gear, if that's the motivating factor.
 
Starting out in my late 50s, I was driven to find and use the most efficient climbing system to use mainly on long ascents. Using a Rads setup put far to much demand on my upper body, whereas a rope walking system put the burden mostly on my legs, which is my preference. However, I agree that a climber can get climbing with a lot less gear, if that's the motivating factor.

John, did you use a footloop on your RADS? A climber can distribute muscle use to their legs in a RADS same as any climbing system.

Here’s my friend Paul long-time DdRT rec climber, second time on a RADS, he likes it.


-AJ
 
John, did you use a footloop on your RADS? A climber can distribute muscle use to their legs in a RADS same as any climbing system.

Here’s my friend Paul long-time DdRT rec climber, second time on a RADS, he likes it.


-AJ
The guy in the video might be better served by using both feet in a double foot loop, or by stacking the non-foot looped foot on top of the looped foot, for better leverage, but even with the foot loop or foot ascender my upper body still took more than when I just use a foot ascender and a knee ascender on SRT. I enjoy using a Rad setup when I'm in the canopy for sure, but for long ascents I much prefer ropewalking. My Rads system includes a Hand Ascender, a Roll Clip and an optional foot loop or foot ascender.
 
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The guy in the video might be better served by using booth feet in a double foot loop, or by stacking the non-foot looped foot on top of the looped foot, for better leverage, but even with the foot loop or foot ascender my upper body still took more than when I just use a foot ascender and a knee ascender on SRT. I enjoy using a Rad setup when I'm in the canopy for sure, but for long ascents I much prefer ropewalking. My Rads system includes a Hand Ascender, a Roll Clip and an optional foot loop or foot ascender.

Yep, there’s a double footloop hanging off the redirect rope clamp, he opted not to use the second loop, I think because he wanted to put the other foot on the trunk to try and control his body position.

No doubt a rope walker is more efficient than a RADS, the RADS can work well for many rec climbers, it’s strong starter SRT system.
-AJ
 
I climbed my first year with a DRT RADS setup before I moved mostly to SRT and bought my SAKA. It was a great way to get acquainted with rec climbing to see if I wanted to seriously pursue it and invest in further gear. But there just seems, for me at least, no comparison with the speed and simplicity of a rope walker arrangement on single rope. And my chest roller takes any remaining strain or excess effort out of the ascent. I am still a real beginner at limb walking and I have started using single rope for that too, with the rope led back up to a pulley on a hand ascender for MA when coming back from out on the limb. Seems to work fine so far. And the SCAM for most redirects, using a RollClipZ. Of course, every tree and every climb can present different challenges. Surely it pays to remain open minded about systems and have a versatile collection of kit.
 
I climbed on a rock climbing harness (Arc'Teryx) for awhile. It was challenging to say the least. Ice Climbing harness. Carying everything up including my saw into big wood was interesting./
 
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I climbed on a rock climbing harness (Arc'Teryx) for awhile. It was challenging to say the least. It was an Ice Climbing harness. Carying everything up including my saw income big wood was interesting./

If Arc’teryx made a tree climbing harness I would just dump my next paycheck into it
Also if lululemon made sawpants I’d be a happy man
 

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