Hazard rating on this 125' bigleaf maple

[southsoundtree]

I'm just starting this removal project.

Climbed 100' yesterday to inspect, hang climb and rigging lines, and remove a few dead, hazard limbs.

A regional company of very poor reputation informed the customers that the tree, weighted strongly toward their bedroom, would grow back together where there are dead sections, the tree is fine, despite the hollow where the raccoons lived.

When I climbed and saw the hollow, at about 30', I was amazed that it didn't snap in half during last winter's historical 'snow-maggedon'.

Probably 80% hollow with 90' of tree above it.





Major, super-advanced inclusions with huge 'elephant ears'.

No removal or care bid provided.

Hollow is where the upper section of missing bark is visible.


Is this professional negligence, to make such an evaluation as a sales representative when the customers wanted a removal bid? Evergreen came after I told the husband how bad it was, impo.
The wife, at first, yesterday, said she didn't want to name names to protect the "innocent"!!



Your thoughts?

 

[evo]

I'm just starting this removal project.

Climbed 100' yesterday to inspect, hang climb and rigging lines, and remove a few dead, hazard limbs.

A regional company of very poor reputation informed the customers that the tree, weighted strongly toward their bedroom, would grow back together where there are dead sections, the tree is fine, despite the hollow where the raccoons lived.

When I climbed and saw the hollow, at about 30', I was amazed that it didn't snap in half during last winter's historical 'snow-maggedon'.

Probably 80% hollow with 90' of tree above it.

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Major, super-advanced inclusions with huge 'elephant ears'.

No removal or care bid provided.

Hollow is where the upper section of missing bark is visible.


Is this professional negligence, to make such an evaluation as a sales representative when the customers wanted a removal bid? Evergreen came after I told the husband how bad it was, impo.
The wife, at first, yesterday, said she didn't want to name names to Potter the innocent!!



Your thoughts?

Evergreen is criminal, simple as that. Maples never cease to amaze me. Elephant ears can be strong as f, but the wood on either side much less so. Might be able to retain it as a coppice or if you can get a lift in hard reduction pruning.
I’ll try to send a photo of a large bigleaf maple partial failure, every time I go past it I’m amazed it’s still standing! Been well over 12 months.

 

[Gorman]

Evergreen is criminal, simple as that. Maples never cease to amaze me. Elephant ears can be strong as f, but the wood on either side much less so. Might be able to retain it as a coppice or if you can get a lift in hard reduction pruning.
I’ll try to send a photo of a large bigleaf maple partial failure, every time I go past it I’m amazed it’s still standing! Been well over 12 months.

These trees are hard to do reductions on. Not much for lateral branches to take back to

 

[evo]

These trees are hard to do reductions on. Not much for lateral branches to take back to

Yup, they can be a pain.

 

[southsoundtree]

So, since I got it brushed out, and somewhat chunked down, I decided to put a duck into the cavity as a measuring device, and bore in from the other side.

Lots of dead trunk under detached but thick bark.

The dead side is 2" thick.


At the very end of the day, on my way up to change from Srs choke to MRS to bail out, we all heard a pop!
I was swinging my steel lanyard biner around at the time, but was in a live section. The pop sounded like a steel biner on the dead drum section.

On descent, I spotted a tiny vertical crack I hadn't seen before on the exposed trunk.

Looks like trucker straps, and lots more chunking- down than rigging and swinging, after all.

Luckily, the septic is under half the tree, the big half! You can see the white plastic pipes at the end of the drain field's lines in the second picture.




But I hear that the tree will just grow back over the dead sections, and it's fine to leave with the bedroom in reach.

 

[owScott]

Why not use a crane?

 

[Treetopflyer]

Tough positions tough decisions. Tree times slow u til its fast then its heavy.

 

[southsoundtree]

Why not use a crane?

Access. Concrete driveway is already having cracks. His boat-port is in a bad spot.

Most stuff was rigged down in manageable-sized pieces, right to the chipper.

Too much material to process in the small space, available.

Scheduling challenges.

Not needed... The crane op I tend to use occasionally, who will lift into the tree, is always in a rush, somehow, for someone paid by the hour. He's only got 131' with jib.

I don't have ground-staff to deal with crane work. The groundman who rigged down the wood today was a shining star among the usual crap guys. 2-tour combat vet in Iraq makes you not a wuss, and able to follow directions. He started 3 days ago.
A solid guy I had on for two-days working interview (first day of rigging and chipping, then had to move onto a springboard felling at 10', dead maple, field-goal between two trees- job for day 2...might have been a little intense for first 2 days of real tree work) just contacted me to say that he changed his mind about moving over the mountains and starting fresh in Oly. Was trainable, responsible, safe, etc.

I considered this one beyond my solo rigging skills without a crane for the wood. If needed, I would have craned the wood with a bigger crane, and found someone.


I climbed into the hollow, waist-deep, today. My ground man's pictures are not loading via text onto my phone effectively, though.

 

[southsoundtree]

 

[SeanRuel]

Yuck! That's a nasty removal!

 

[southsoundtree]

Interesting!

A little more challenging that the usual.


No new septic system or shed for them.


Pulled out the 42" today, using every bit on the narrow direction of the final cut, at about 7'.

Worst section was higher.

He's going to build a tree house on the stump, or something.













About a week of short days, me and a rookie, mini-loader is in for repairs.

 

[owScott]

Access. Concrete driveway is already having cracks. His boat-port is in a bad spot.

Most stuff was rigged down in manageable-sized pieces, right to the chipper.

Too much material to process in the small space, available.

Scheduling challenges.

Not needed... The crane op I tend to use occasionally, who will lift into the tree, is always in a rush, somehow, for someone paid by the hour. He's only got 131' with jib.

I don't have ground-staff to deal with crane work. The groundman who rigged down the wood today was a shining star among the usual crap guys. 2-tour combat vet in Iraq makes you not a wuss, and able to follow directions. He started 3 days ago.
A solid guy I had on for two-days working interview (first day of rigging and chipping, then had to move onto a springboard felling at 10', dead maple, field-goal between two trees- job for day 2...might have been a little intense for first 2 days of real tree work) just contacted me to say that he changed his mind about moving over the mountains and starting fresh in Oly. Was trainable, responsible, safe, etc.

I considered this one beyond my solo rigging skills without a crane for the wood. If needed, I would have craned the wood with a bigger crane, and found someone.


I climbed into the hollow, waist-deep, today. My ground man's pictures are not loading via text onto my phone effectively, though.

Good work , ugly tree.