Haul-back line for remote rigging point.

[Serf Life]

We speedlined the right one then speedlined the left one off the dead one with a haulback line (biner on hank). Mini pretensioned the line, the piece would land at the base of the dead one, then mini backed up to tension the speedline and the limb would yard up the bank to the lawn. Super efficient given the spot and 2 people.

 

[Muggs]

In one of Reg's old videos, starting at 7:45, @Reg

 

[southsoundtree]

I think that this will be my plan.






Both ropes are full size rigging lines.



The blue line will be a rigging line or drift line. Mid-line ttaching blue to a steel rigging ring (or rigging plate) will allow the blue line to also be a tag line.

I'll likely set a Port-a-wrap with a 3:1 at the base. I can use the POW as a redirection point for a horizontal MA system, keeping everthing in easy reach, unless I want to pretension the blue line.







The pink will be as a rigging line, hold-back line or haul-back line, likely through a Rig'n'Wrench.



I'll use a sling and biner to connect each tree-part to the rigging ring. Unclipping the sling that is hitched to the branch from the carabiner will free the system, allowing me to pull the rigging ring back to me asap for setting the next piece, which I'll have already slung, waiting to clip and go.



Burning brush as we go will help production and be warm.

 

[evo]

I think that this will be my plan.

Both ropes are full size rigging lines.

The blue line will be a rigging line or drift line. Mid-line ttaching blue to a steel rigging ring (or rigging plate) will allow the blue line to also be a tag line.
I'll likely set a Port-a-wrap with a 3:1 at the base. I can use the POW as a redirection point for a horizontal MA system, keeping everthing in easy reach, unless I want to pretension the blue line.



The pink will be as a rigging line, hold-back line or haul-back line, likely through a Rig'n'Wrench.

I'll use a sling and biner to connect each tree-part to the rigging ring. Unclipping the sling that is hitched to the branch from the carabiner will free the system, allowing me to pull the rigging ring back to me asap for setting the next piece, which I'll have already slung, waiting to clip and go.

Burning brush as we go will help production and be warm.

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Not to complicate anything. Depend on the tools ya got, you can attach each rigging line to a rigging plate, big ass ring or similar. Hang a long enough deadeye sling to the center of the rigging plate to tie off to the cut piece.

Functionally it’s the same as your drawing. However you can tie two or three dead eyes for balanced loads or multiple limbs

 

[southsoundtree]

I have about everthing I could want.

I have a rigging plate in the same bin as the ring, just have to find the right bin.

Seperating connections would help in some instances. This is not at all right quarters, near the intact tree. Obstacles are beneath. I am trying to work smarter than harder, keeping 2 people moving and sharing the work.

I try to rely on ground crew as little as possible for things that I can do while they are busy, as well as keeping walking, especially empty-handed walking, to a minimum, within reason.

 

[Crimsonking]

I’ve done this a couple ways.

First- Blake’s hitch the hold/haul line to the main rigging line, and run aerial friction from the drift point. I use the cmi GT for this, or the downrigger for smaller stuff. Slide the Blake’s to the knot/ termination before cutting, slide away to untie the piece. Blake’s line becomes haulback as long as the ground crew doesn’t untie it.

Second- aerial friction at drift point like above, but with a pulley at the end, with the main line running through to the piece. This is just my version of what’s already been described with a ring.

 

[southsoundtree]

I grabbed the rigging plate.

Ended up being overkill for the situation.

I liked the Rig'n'Wrenches easy way of having friction or not.


There was only very minor tangling.


I ended up just natural- crouching most everything on a new EK-12 rope from Wesspur.
A light weight 1/2" rope, with a small POW.

Easy loading with big swings.

Short day onsite. We got most of the needed brush rigging done today. One big piece of brush to swing tomorrow.

We'll winch or use the mini to move logs uphill tomorrow.

There is one more brushy leader in the back-left, but it can be dropped and dragged or rigged/ speedlined.

I need to check in with the homeowner about leaving the large dead leader for habitat or getting some of it down. I don't want to lose my TIP by bringing wood down tomorrow. Unfortunately, she emailed that she's sick.

 

[southsoundtree]

What I found was that long, mid-tied pieces just tangled up as they spun and swung.

It was easier to detach/ reattach the haul line each time. The ground was muddy and sloping...i was trying to avoid the extra walking each time, as much or more to reduce slip-and-fall potential as to save 50' of walking each time.


I think that the mid-tie was the problem. Had it been butt- tied, it wouldn't have tangled and the haul- back line would have helped.

Had hoped for a trick that would have avoided tangles.

IDK...Perhaps hitching the haul back line about 25' from the rigging termination would have helped.