hanging in lanyard/side D's hurts?

Clean simplicity, with as few parts as possible focused to target with out waste is best certainly etc.
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But in pivotal understandings I think a wide base is best to field the ball correctly, in a quarter second's notice for safety and productivity in any direction the ball comes your way.
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I L-earned the feel for side force in a line and leverage of lean from digesting the way rope pulled on me and WHY, also what I could do about it and WHY . Then how I could see and use same forces in other things by extension. Perhaps to a more immediate efficiency and staying safe by always reacting and grooming (rigs, hinges etc.)confidentally full steam ahead from very start in right direction. Just cuz knew all along where was going with deal ,so nothing wasted and what I' m trying to pull out of it force wise. Like knowing where you are going with a joke as you reel someone in..
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So as I bring trig into it , personal compression/tension observations etc. I'm really saying "here too" for you can't evade trig in any physical size, displacement, power etc. any more than can evade your own ergonomics/biology of D's as mains.
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But REALLY trying to invite that climbers feel same forces daily on bod to L-earn more intuitive feel and understanding, especially if relate to correct number scale to compare and understand pulls you feel. So you feel the across sideways pull anytime look at any slanted line or cable, hey I know how that feels. And that then leverage of lean is same sideways force math etc.
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Understanding how everything else works around me this way has been one of greatest gifts in this really toughest jobs ya gotta love of tree work. If paying the price to this devil, then shouldn't run past these things, especially as can use them even now. Side pull on climber (and angled pull rope on truck) is one of my fave lessons of this.
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When see the forces in everything correctly, everything teaches you. Best way tho I think is to know them more deeply, intuitively when can feel how they'd pull, and know where math makes high impacting changes to know what you are really looking at best.
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Then at that point, keep it simple and groom most to powers of most pivotal concepts correctly while forging against unwanted at the same time in fewest moves, from the very start, while knowing what your looking at well enough to learn even more as it goes.
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"Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed" -Sir Francis Beacon
 
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Sir, of all of your posts I've ever read, both here and on the Tree House forum, the one you just made above was the easiest (for me) to understand. I don't know if you have changed, or if I have. Maybe you tried to proofread the above post before hitting the post button. Whatever it was you did, please keep it up, and try to improve on it further. We all want to learn what it is that you have to teach, but you need to meet us half way. Thanks for being a TreeBuzz member, and posting on this forum.

Tim
 
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Bosun seat would be sitting in the chair/ rump seat.
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Hanging from D's isn't natural sitting, and presses on ribs, limiting air also.
i use side D's as secondary TITS, also functioning as anti sway while main support is overhead tie.
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Nice trick though in some tuff spots is (with tight belt, sometimes quick suspender on it from slings, throw under branch standing on, bend knees, then tighten lanyard,then tighten legs pressing leg force up against lanyard restriction for fair lock in place,but tiring. Like to also have overhead lifeline failsafe,usually not at friendly angle if reaching for this trick. Unfriendly off balancing overhead support isn't hard to fall prey to. At 15 degrees deflection 25% of line tension is pulling you sideway/off balance, at 30 degrees deflection angle of lifeline, 50% of line tension is trying to pull you off balance sideways. These are sine values, and start from Zer0 at pure inline overhead support, but any deflection makes immediate fast changing change, most volatile at this end of the scale (near inline).
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Compression/push at this angle would push you away from support/back inline to own self.
BUT tension pulls to it's own inline, (whereby compression side force pushes further out of line) so pulls you out of own inline, trying to align you under support.
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Ok, after looking at this for a bit I think I understood what you are trying to say. The technique you describe sounds interesting, but very dangerous too. Imagine what kind of accident could happen if you slipped of the branch:
1. Slip off
2. fall off the side and into your lanyard. Now you will be hanging in your lanyard for a while (thats what the original question was about, ouch!)

Luckily I dont have to use those sketchy tricks as a purely recreational climber (For now)... If I dont think its safe, I dont have to do it. I also dont carry a box with a sharp blade filled with flammable liquid around with me :D
 
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Sir, of all of your posts I've ever read, both here and on the Tree House forum, the one you just made above was the easiest (for me) to understand. I don't know if you have changed, or if I have. Maybe you tried to proofread the above post before hitting the post button. Whatever it was you did, please keep it up, and try to improve on it further. We all want to learn what it is that you have to teach, but you need to meet us half way. Thanks for being a TreeBuzz member, and posting on this forum.

Tim
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Every time i read one of his posts my mind collapses inwards a little bit. I remember seeing his post about notches with all kinds of crazy / difficult to interpret diagrams ...

It looks like an incredibly intellectual person with a quirk wrote that in English, translated it through Google Translate through 5 languages only to eventually translate back into English.

This was definitely the easiest to L-earn from though
 
Alone, in this tough environment, I think should know how much can tolerate so long.
Sometimes only way to find where the line be , is to step across line and hear buzzer go off!
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Then any time finding or choosing to be so compromised and what percentage of shared support of weight is on front D's, and clock in head ticking against equitable time tolerance.
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Also, all these points are good lessons why to stay tied in well, not with tons of slack so don't impact bod into such discomforts.
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For me added strain from only using 1 D alone or to centers was less than half discomforts of using both D's.
 
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Alone, in this tough environment, I think should know how much can tolerate so long.
Sometimes only way to find where the line be , is to step across line and hear buzzer go off!
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Then any time finding or choosing to be so compromised and what percentage of shared support of weight is on front D's, and clock in head ticking against equitable time tolerance.
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Also, all these points are good lessons why to stay tied in well, not with tons of slack so don't impact bod into such discomforts.
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For me added strain from only using 1 D alone or to centers was less than half discomforts of using both D's.
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I rest my case.

Tony
 
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