haha this is funny, catching hacks jobs

Maui Palm & Tree Care

Maui Palm & Tree Care

Location
Pukalani, Hawaii
i had a little argument on youtube with a guy who bashes my company and talks alot of shirt about me. this made me laugh. notice how he cant back up his statements when i ask why they top trees and why they lack PPE and proper training.

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do you know that spikes hurt the coconut palm stems? the spike holes never heal do to the fact that they dont have a cambium, xylum and phloem layer to aid in healing process for wounds.

tree stands like the ones used for hunting are faster safer and do not damage the coconut stems. i am an ISA certified arborist here on maui and would never spike a coconut tree. climb safe bra
joshuarugg 3 months ago
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@joshuarugg Mr Rugg, u r one funny character! I think u probably climb less than 10 coconut trees a year with your tree stand. However, the outfit that you are watching and felt the need to inject some arboricultural advice, have done entire hotel properties with 300+ trees in less than 2 days. Spikeless I might add! JUST FYI.
Epsta1 6 days ago
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@Epsta1 still dont make it right that your lacking safety. according to the ANSI and OSHA A300 tree safety. a climber should have 2 attachment points at all times when cutting aloft in a tree. also TOPPING is not a proper height reduction method and it causes decay and weak branches that fail in a wind storm. the tree becomes more of an issue after it has been topped then before it was topped. i hope you start using more safety brah or someones gonna get killed. have a nice day
joshuarugg 4 days ago
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@joshuarugg Mr. Rugg, you telling me Topping is wrong, is like telling a Firefighter that starting fires is bad. You are preaching to choir buddy! Here's some info! Any tree contractor who holds a State of County tree trimming contract must staff a 5 year arborist, NO EXCEPTIONS! Any tree contractor who TOPPS a tree on State or County property can have their contract terminated or be barred from future bidding. Do your research next time brah!
Epsta1 1 day ago
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@Epsta1 hahahah, thats why you guys "top" trees on non state residential properties right, so you can avoid the state? haha Im sure you tell home/property owners, large trees are a hazard and dangerous and they have to be topped to make them safer. dont lie brah, i have many accounts that got bids from you guys and the homeowners all told me the same thing that you guys tell them to get thier trees topped for safety and health. LOL


@joshuarugg until you get more equipment and stop working out of your old pick up truck and rusted hand saw please refrain from speaking to me you rookie! Mr joshnorugg!!!
Epsta1 1 day ago



@Epsta1 equipment means nothing if you cant use it right. i guess thats why you use bucket trucks huh. your too sophisticated for climbing and rigging gear. lol i bet you guys dont even know how to set up and use a simple port-o-wrap or negative rigging system with the usage of double braid rigging lines and how to use mechanical advantage systems.
joshuarugg 1 minute ago

stop working out of your rusty pickup truck and rusty hand saws. HAHAHAH that made me laugh soo hard i just about cried.
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2 points of attachment at all times when cutting?
Pretty sure, there is an exception to that.

You should hang out with Ekka, he'd love you.
 
You got to learn to work with the contractors not against them. We manage all the City contracts for the island of Oahu and work with a lot of contractors here, some of them really good some of them not so great. It's a fine line of trying to bring awareness without putting people down, but you've got to learn to walk that line.

Nobody likes a tree police, plus you'd be amazed what those guys could teach YOU.

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brah i have seen malafu contactors work. no helmets, no ppe, toppings trees, over trimming palms, no fall arest in the buckets. do i wanna work with someone who is this bad and then has the nerve to make comments about our company? NO!

this is why i need to move off of hawaii and go to work for a "Real" tree company that actually cares about proper tree care. im done with this bullcrap.
they have gotten soo good at lying when someone confronts them about topping and over pruning palms. im just over it.
 
I admire your passion... You are always welcome to move to Ohio!

I think you will find that this negative part of arboriculture exists everywhere. Just be a "professional" and handle these conflicts like a professional!

Passionate arborists are what makes this industry great!
 
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I admire your passion... You are always welcome to move to Ohio!

I think you will find that this negative part of arboriculture exists everywhere. Just be a "professional" and handle these conflicts like a professional!

Passionate arborists are what makes this industry great!

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Well put Treecare
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If you are a safe company with great communication skills who makes it to jobs on time and works really hard, you will find that you soon have too much work to worry about the hacks.

I've stirred the hornets before with some preaching on one-handing saws, it doesn't really get one anywhere.

You stay safe and practice ethical arboriculture (whatever that means to you) and you will have opportunities in the future to compete with your hack competitors. Maybe you'll even have the chance to remove or remedial-prune some of their masterpieces.

And that feels better than arguing with someone online.
 
I've given up on trying to argue with any of the other tree services in the area - you know the old saying "doing the same thing and expecting different results is the definition of insanity" was just starting to ring too true. The guys that do the hack work don't care if it's wrong, they just care about squeezing a quick buck out of a customer, with no regard to the long-term outcome. That's why we're focusing on educating the customer so that they can spot the hacks themselves and tell them to go hack someone else's trees.
 
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