Haas/Wraptor

I use redirects almost every time I can. I am all srt besides removals. You have a high angle TIP with ddrt because you need the angles to hit every limb, limb walk, etc. Instead of me running out every limb I'll swing over to the opposite leader in the crown and spider down the whole opposite side and can do any reduction, then run, not step, up and undue my redirect. Simple and more efficient.
 
I've thought about that but my system is dialed in to just me. And the retrievable part usually only works in a perfect scenario, and I game plan a tree by splitting it 50 50 now. Work one side then drop on the other side
 
JakeRiggs said:
I use redirects almost every time I can. I am all srt besides removals. You have a high angle TIP with ddrt because you need the angles to hit every limb, limb walk, etc. Instead of me running out every limb I'll swing over to the opposite leader in the crown and spider down the whole opposite side and can do any reduction, then run, not step, up and undue my redirect. Simple and more efficient.
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Ok for small trees I suppose. Thought you all had some big trees in Bryn Mawr? Double tie in much more efficient in real big trees so as not to have to go thru torture back tracking. I hate wasted energy.
 
Personally for a large pruning job I believe climbing SRT with even just a foot ascender and some careful planning is by far the best way to avoid wasting energy. If you natural crotch redirect it is incredibly easy to clear your redi's especially if you have a nice mid-line attachable device like a uni or bulldog bone. Also presetting extra climb lines in strategic locations will save the day. In the same vain of thought as treestuff's triple threat system.
 
We have giants out here that demand SRT that body thrusting back over a leader is for the birds. I have respect for old school and believe there is a time and a place for it, but no way can you say it's more efficient, if your system is dialed in less energy is used SRT than Ddrt. I like to stick to minimal gear in the tree, the triple threat is real nice if you work with the same crew everyday, as a sub, I don't need to confuse the crew anymore.
 
Wraptor and 2 climbing lines....and NO redirects on big trees imo. If I got a huge one I just toss a couple of other top crotches while working the TIP and if deadwooding/pruning...just go right down to the ground, have a drink or just go back up the 2nd lead on the wraptor. And the third lead etc. THAT is the real NEW SCHOOL. Just too bad if you cannot afford the best equipment :-(
 
Would certainly be less energy using the wraptor to go back up after coming down or working a long tall lead way down or something, but I think it would take much longer switching the wraptor on and off, as opposed to just unclipping a real simple rope walking system.
But treevet I don't own a wraptor just used one once and seen it used this is just me speculating. Think your plan would work well tho if it fits your style.
You might find using a redirect from time to time might help. Maybe work a lead off a redirect you can pull out and the other line you wraptor back up
 
I follow vet's approach of Wraptor and 2 climbing lines, but still find redirects handy on big trees, or more often use a short climbing rope or my tail for a section of the crown. If pruning, just go right down to the ground, have a drink, some O2, some liniment, maybe a massage to work the kinks out, or take a nap ;) and then go back up on the wraptor. Lowering it and retying it typically takes less than a minute.

Buckets are great for the periphery but seldom can reach the entire crown, so climbing would still have to happen. Ascending via a motor is really nice for old guys, but not superior to what young guys use. Makes no sense to turn this into a P'ing contest. :(
 
JakeRiggs said:
Wraptors are for old guys who can't afford buckets, so who really knows new school here.
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You say "old guys" like there is something wrong with that. We generally are stronger, smarter, more experienced, make more money, own more stuff including toys, better looking and know how to enjoy life more. (humbler too)

I own a 55' and 75' bucket and 25 ton crane. Wraptor is just another tool in the box for ascending large trees and just happens to be the best one by a mile. Maybe you will be able to afford one someday Suzie. :-)

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treevet said:
You say "old guys" like there is something wrong with that. We generally are stronger, smarter, more experienced, make more money, own more stuff including toys, better looking and know how to enjoy life more. (humbler too)

I own a 55' and 75' bucket and 25 ton crane. Wraptor is just another tool in the box for ascending large trees and just happens to be the best one by a mile. Maybe you will be able to afford one someday Suzie. :)

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It's been a while since I've logged on, but it's good to know Treevet is still a wanker. ;)


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If I miss the nail and hit my thumb with a hammer and later the pain goes away and in some context I miss that pain....well yes, you may have a point my son. :tonto:
 
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