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i sense a love triangle developing
easyphloem
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- Louisville, KY
This site needs more Grovers.
For real.
For real.
- Location
- Austin, TX
Yes, more grovers
- Location
- sunny Madison, WI
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Yeah.........A real truck for a real dumbass. "yeah boys, ah got me a reeeaal big truuuck, look at ma big fat tyres.... aint that coooool"
Sad............ Someone tell the Goons of Hazzard this site's about trees!
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I agree.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspicuous_consumption
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invidious_consumption
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I agree to.
Unfortunatetly it seems this is the way the world is going.
I'm just glad I work with trees. At least you still have some connection to the natural world. There is always something different to see everyday. I remember being up a tree one day and this caterpillar was trying to bite me, like it was really putting up a good fight! I'd never seen sh*t like that before! I moved it to another branch....it seem a lot happier.
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Yeah.........A real truck for a real dumbass. "yeah boys, ah got me a reeeaal big truuuck, look at ma big fat tyres.... aint that coooool"
Sad............ Someone tell the Goons of Hazzard this site's about trees!
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I agree.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspicuous_consumption
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invidious_consumption
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I agree to.
Unfortunatetly it seems this is the way the world is going.
I'm just glad I work with trees. At least you still have some connection to the natural world. There is always something different to see everyday. I remember being up a tree one day and this caterpillar was trying to bite me, like it was really putting up a good fight! I'd never seen sh*t like that before! I moved it to another branch....it seem a lot happier.
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- In the Mitten...
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Yes, more grovers
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Yes, more grovers
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they are both good trucks axe
canter possibly has the edge in my opinion
treebing
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- Detroit, Mi.
Four cylinders is all you ever need for tree work. Out od all big trucks I like that about the Izuzu NPR and other cmall cab-overs. Its all about the suspension of the truck not the bigger motor. See the dually micro-toyotas used by the scrapers in L.A. AMAZING loads on those tiny things.
My business started out with bike trailers, see bikesatwork.com moved up to a beefed up volkswagen pick-up. Sometimes I think about going for a bigger truck. I guess I feel like I couldn't picture myself driving a big truck. I admit I often wish I had a big truck. But ultimatly I realize the jobs that need that large truck or large chipper are jobs that suck and take from the community rather than contribute.
I never have understood the whole tradition of removing wood chips from the site. It makes no sense moving wood around like that. Trees are meant to decompose where they originate from.
In my experience, most customers easily come around to the view point that the wood chips are best left on site. For the ones that dont, charge them more and sell them to people that do want chips. Usually there are people on the block that recognize their value.
Between my VW and 6" morbark chipper, and my partners, mazda with a trailer or log arch, we are a legitimate tree company that can do most every job that any company in the detroit area can but better. When we need extra capacity in the truck, and we are within a 6 mile radius, a crew member will ride the equipment, (GRCS, Chainsaws, Ropes, gas and oil, pulleys, rakes, blower etc) on the bike trailer. (thats for the return ride only) For real close jobs the bike can pull the small DR chipper or log splitter.
All capable logs are milled regardless of species. It is amazing how much wood you can haul after it is milled and lays flat on a trailer. Logs are staged at the nearest good location using the future forestry log arch. 15 footers behind the VW. (side streets baby 15 mph, the cops in my experience get excited about it).
I'm biased of course but you have to be as mister poteet also knows. You have to be confident that you are trying to do things the right way. I believe big trucks are the wrong way, most of the time. My gamble is that the companies with big trucks will die because they have those big mouths to feed. My investments will go towards technologies that uses the fewest moving parts, lasts the longest, and will bust [censored] for me without asking anything in return. Those are the good tools. I also try to judge how much blood is involved in an investment. Every time we buy gas we are killing people, giving money to the terrorists,homegrown and abroad, so-called muslims and christians, earth rapers etc. ya'll know who Im talking about. Why do we continue to give money to them when we know what they do with it?
I cant wait for the economy to evolve to the point where bikes can once again outcompete blood gas. I believe it is getting close, at least in my area of the country. Tree people should all cheer when the gas prices climb. Fewer saws, fewer trucks, only good news for trees and people both.
My business started out with bike trailers, see bikesatwork.com moved up to a beefed up volkswagen pick-up. Sometimes I think about going for a bigger truck. I guess I feel like I couldn't picture myself driving a big truck. I admit I often wish I had a big truck. But ultimatly I realize the jobs that need that large truck or large chipper are jobs that suck and take from the community rather than contribute.
I never have understood the whole tradition of removing wood chips from the site. It makes no sense moving wood around like that. Trees are meant to decompose where they originate from.
In my experience, most customers easily come around to the view point that the wood chips are best left on site. For the ones that dont, charge them more and sell them to people that do want chips. Usually there are people on the block that recognize their value.
Between my VW and 6" morbark chipper, and my partners, mazda with a trailer or log arch, we are a legitimate tree company that can do most every job that any company in the detroit area can but better. When we need extra capacity in the truck, and we are within a 6 mile radius, a crew member will ride the equipment, (GRCS, Chainsaws, Ropes, gas and oil, pulleys, rakes, blower etc) on the bike trailer. (thats for the return ride only) For real close jobs the bike can pull the small DR chipper or log splitter.
All capable logs are milled regardless of species. It is amazing how much wood you can haul after it is milled and lays flat on a trailer. Logs are staged at the nearest good location using the future forestry log arch. 15 footers behind the VW. (side streets baby 15 mph, the cops in my experience get excited about it).
I'm biased of course but you have to be as mister poteet also knows. You have to be confident that you are trying to do things the right way. I believe big trucks are the wrong way, most of the time. My gamble is that the companies with big trucks will die because they have those big mouths to feed. My investments will go towards technologies that uses the fewest moving parts, lasts the longest, and will bust [censored] for me without asking anything in return. Those are the good tools. I also try to judge how much blood is involved in an investment. Every time we buy gas we are killing people, giving money to the terrorists,homegrown and abroad, so-called muslims and christians, earth rapers etc. ya'll know who Im talking about. Why do we continue to give money to them when we know what they do with it?
I cant wait for the economy to evolve to the point where bikes can once again outcompete blood gas. I believe it is getting close, at least in my area of the country. Tree people should all cheer when the gas prices climb. Fewer saws, fewer trucks, only good news for trees and people both.
Dear Mr. Treebing
A very interesting editorial, please clear up a few points for me. When making extra capacity in the truck which piece of equipment does the crew member ride on the chipper, the bike trailer or how about the log arch. I bet that gets those police real excited. LOL
“I never have understood the whole tradition of removing wood chips from the site.”
Well I am not sure when this tradition started but I know that 10 yards of wood chips is a lot for a 10,000 square foot yard. If the homeowner does not want them do you go door to door? What the heck just set up the dr chipper 3 houses down and drag the brush there and chip it up. I don’t see the large companies demise as you have predicted. I won’t touch the blood gas part because it just shows what a complete and utter STOP STOP I WON’T DO IT LORD GIVE ME THE STRENGTH TO REFRAIN. THANK YOU LORD I FEEL BETTER NOW!!!!
“Between my VW and 6" morbark chipper, and my partners, mazda with a trailer or log arch, we are a legitimate tree company that can do most every job that any company in the detroit area can but better.”
How about your insurance, workers comp?
Legitimate, yeah when pigs fly!
Totally amazed in jersey
A very interesting editorial, please clear up a few points for me. When making extra capacity in the truck which piece of equipment does the crew member ride on the chipper, the bike trailer or how about the log arch. I bet that gets those police real excited. LOL
“I never have understood the whole tradition of removing wood chips from the site.”
Well I am not sure when this tradition started but I know that 10 yards of wood chips is a lot for a 10,000 square foot yard. If the homeowner does not want them do you go door to door? What the heck just set up the dr chipper 3 houses down and drag the brush there and chip it up. I don’t see the large companies demise as you have predicted. I won’t touch the blood gas part because it just shows what a complete and utter STOP STOP I WON’T DO IT LORD GIVE ME THE STRENGTH TO REFRAIN. THANK YOU LORD I FEEL BETTER NOW!!!!
“Between my VW and 6" morbark chipper, and my partners, mazda with a trailer or log arch, we are a legitimate tree company that can do most every job that any company in the detroit area can but better.”
How about your insurance, workers comp?
Legitimate, yeah when pigs fly!
Totally amazed in jersey
- Location
- Washington
Great ideas Treebing. I think more of us should be looking at how we can make the industry more sustainable instead of always wanting bigger equipment.
Jerseywild- When he says "ride the equipment" I think he means they're riding a bike pulling a trailer with the equipment.
Jerseywild- When he says "ride the equipment" I think he means they're riding a bike pulling a trailer with the equipment.
treebing
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- Detroit, Mi.
insurance yes. legitimate, I think so, young and naive, maybe
if the owner does not want the wood chips. the cost goes way up, sometimes we dont get the job because of that. Many times, we will leave the pile and pick it up as we need it, more often than not, it will be gone before we get back to it. I am not knocking the utility of a large truck for certain things, and when need be I will make it happen. I just think that for good deal of tree work, they are not needed. There is a right tool for every job. It is very rare that I make ten yards of wood chips on a job. Anything over 6 inches should be firewood, anything over twelve and straight should be milled.
I tell my customers that I am a different company and that all of the tree gets utilized, this means that there maybe wood products on there property until we can deal with it properly. If they dont like it, then they can find someone else. In my experience anyone who happens to call me for tree work has a concious about their trees and is not looking for the in and out companies who just trash everything. Who knows how my philosophy will change or alter as we move foward. From the Earth Services is one year and three months old (since getting insurance and DBA). We have just about broken even in our first year with a lot of firewood and milled wood accumulating which hopefully is money in the bank.
I want to hear what you had to say about blood gas. I am interested in how anyone could not see that the cheap gas we use in this country is soaked (if a liquid could be soaked) in blood.
if the owner does not want the wood chips. the cost goes way up, sometimes we dont get the job because of that. Many times, we will leave the pile and pick it up as we need it, more often than not, it will be gone before we get back to it. I am not knocking the utility of a large truck for certain things, and when need be I will make it happen. I just think that for good deal of tree work, they are not needed. There is a right tool for every job. It is very rare that I make ten yards of wood chips on a job. Anything over 6 inches should be firewood, anything over twelve and straight should be milled.
I tell my customers that I am a different company and that all of the tree gets utilized, this means that there maybe wood products on there property until we can deal with it properly. If they dont like it, then they can find someone else. In my experience anyone who happens to call me for tree work has a concious about their trees and is not looking for the in and out companies who just trash everything. Who knows how my philosophy will change or alter as we move foward. From the Earth Services is one year and three months old (since getting insurance and DBA). We have just about broken even in our first year with a lot of firewood and milled wood accumulating which hopefully is money in the bank.
I want to hear what you had to say about blood gas. I am interested in how anyone could not see that the cheap gas we use in this country is soaked (if a liquid could be soaked) in blood.
"Every time we buy gas we are killing people, giving money to the terrorists,homegrown and abroad, so-called muslims and christians, earth rapers etc. ya'll know who Im talking about. Why do we continue to give money to them when we know what they do with it?"
Mr. treebing
September 2006 Import Highlights: Released on December 1, 2006
Monthly data on the origins of crude oil imports in September 2006 has been released and it shows that two countries have each exported more than 1.5 million barrels per day to the United States. Including those countries, a total of four countries exported over 1.0 million barrels per day of crude oil to the United States (see table below). The top five exporting countries accounted for 64 percent of United States crude oil imports in September while the top ten sources accounted for approximately 85 percent of all U.S. crude oil imports. The top sources of US crude oil imports for September were Canada (1.747 million barrels per day), Saudi Arabia (1.546 million barrels per day), Mexico (1.441 million barrels per day), Venezuela (1.129 million barrels per day), and Nigeria (0.966 million barrels per day). The rest of the top ten sources, in order, were Iraq (0.655 million barrels per day), Angola (0.648 million barrels per day), Algeria (0.453 million barrels per day), Ecuador (0.319 million barrels per day), and Kuwait (0.227 million barrels per day). Total crude oil imports averaged 10.703 million barrels per day in September, which is an increase of 0.166 million barrels per day from August 2006.
Canada remained the largest exporter of total petroleum products in September, exporting 2.262 million barrels per day to the United States. The second largest exporter of total petroleum products was Mexico once again (1.569 million barrels per day) which was a slight decrease from last month of 0.189 million barrels per day.
Crude Oil Imports (Top 15 Countries)
(Thousand Barrels per Day)
Country Sep-06 Aug-06 YTD 2006 Sep-05 Jan - Sep 2005
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CANADA 1,747 1,850 1,755 1,670 1,603
SAUDI ARABIA 1,546 1,477 1,424 1,286 1,492
MEXICO 1,441 1,652 1,636 1,249 1,538
VENEZUELA 1,129 1,151 1,157 1,073 1,310
NIGERIA 966 898 1,060 959 1,053
IRAQ 655 620 572 443 534
ANGOLA 648 525 503 451 431
ALGERIA 453 506 351 218 228
ECUADOR 319 285 273 191 270
KUWAIT 227 136 166 235 212
RUSSIA 183 167 115 150 235
COLOMBIA 170 125 161 112 150
CHAD 126 122 89 65 80
UNITED KINGDOM 121 107 139 209 244
BRAZIL 99 196 127 83 92
Dang gum Canadian Muslim terrorist and Mexican Christian terrorist are going to ruin my cheap blood gas.
Hey what the heck are they doing with all that blood money?????
Mr. treebing
September 2006 Import Highlights: Released on December 1, 2006
Monthly data on the origins of crude oil imports in September 2006 has been released and it shows that two countries have each exported more than 1.5 million barrels per day to the United States. Including those countries, a total of four countries exported over 1.0 million barrels per day of crude oil to the United States (see table below). The top five exporting countries accounted for 64 percent of United States crude oil imports in September while the top ten sources accounted for approximately 85 percent of all U.S. crude oil imports. The top sources of US crude oil imports for September were Canada (1.747 million barrels per day), Saudi Arabia (1.546 million barrels per day), Mexico (1.441 million barrels per day), Venezuela (1.129 million barrels per day), and Nigeria (0.966 million barrels per day). The rest of the top ten sources, in order, were Iraq (0.655 million barrels per day), Angola (0.648 million barrels per day), Algeria (0.453 million barrels per day), Ecuador (0.319 million barrels per day), and Kuwait (0.227 million barrels per day). Total crude oil imports averaged 10.703 million barrels per day in September, which is an increase of 0.166 million barrels per day from August 2006.
Canada remained the largest exporter of total petroleum products in September, exporting 2.262 million barrels per day to the United States. The second largest exporter of total petroleum products was Mexico once again (1.569 million barrels per day) which was a slight decrease from last month of 0.189 million barrels per day.
Crude Oil Imports (Top 15 Countries)
(Thousand Barrels per Day)
Country Sep-06 Aug-06 YTD 2006 Sep-05 Jan - Sep 2005
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CANADA 1,747 1,850 1,755 1,670 1,603
SAUDI ARABIA 1,546 1,477 1,424 1,286 1,492
MEXICO 1,441 1,652 1,636 1,249 1,538
VENEZUELA 1,129 1,151 1,157 1,073 1,310
NIGERIA 966 898 1,060 959 1,053
IRAQ 655 620 572 443 534
ANGOLA 648 525 503 451 431
ALGERIA 453 506 351 218 228
ECUADOR 319 285 273 191 270
KUWAIT 227 136 166 235 212
RUSSIA 183 167 115 150 235
COLOMBIA 170 125 161 112 150
CHAD 126 122 89 65 80
UNITED KINGDOM 121 107 139 209 244
BRAZIL 99 196 127 83 92
Dang gum Canadian Muslim terrorist and Mexican Christian terrorist are going to ruin my cheap blood gas.
Hey what the heck are they doing with all that blood money?????
Mangoes
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- Greater Toronto Area
Building igloos
treebing
Been here much more than a while
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- Detroit, Mi.
So, Okay, your right, canadian oil is okay if you dont mind the tundra getting ripped up.
But is any other one of those countries not either bloody and repressive, violent, and or corrupt? Have you hear good news from Chad recently?, Nigeria, come on now, Venezuela? Please dont tell me Russia. The Mexicans sure seem to be taking advantage of all that oil money. Has the presence of oil in any of these countries made them safe secure and free?
For the most part, the presence of oil in these countries allows the government not to need its people. I would like you to go to Nigeria and talk to the local people about Shell oil. I would like you to go to the Ecuadorian Rainforest and talk to local indians about oil companies focefully driving them off their lands, polluting the water to the point of no fish and skin lesions when you bath. Where do we even start with Saudi Arabia and the others.
Afganistan? The first contruaction project startes was the pipeline from the caspian sea oil. Who is Karzai?
Who is Hugo Chavez and why is he so powerful in the world right now? He can buy anyone he wants with his oil.
Where did Osama get his money. Where did Bush get his money. How much blood is on those four hands.
If all we need is eco-friendly canadian oil, WHY THE SNOT ARE WE IN IRAQ! Why has there been a million dollar a day aircraft carrier parked in the gulf since how long now?
Furthermore even if oil was harvested in a people and earth friendly matter, why would that make us any more entiteled to so blatantly waste it? Oil is a good and useful tool. All it is is carbon and hydrogen configured in different ways. All it is is energy. Wasting energy sucks, it makes you angry and tired and prone to accidents. Iraq was a accident because we have wasted too much energy and werent thinking clearly anymore. Impatient, rushing, we acted before thinking, made a mistake and BOOM our day got a hell of a lot longer. That a familiar feeling from jobs gone bad? Wasted energy.
Water for the most part is blood free yet for that reason should we treat it like we wont have to use it again one day?
Poteet, I mean you or your trucks no personal offense by my comments in this thread, I have seen your trucks and your climbers and I can say you bring a true proffesional and good image to the trade. I admire that, and I trust that your truck will be used responsibly and efeciently.
But is any other one of those countries not either bloody and repressive, violent, and or corrupt? Have you hear good news from Chad recently?, Nigeria, come on now, Venezuela? Please dont tell me Russia. The Mexicans sure seem to be taking advantage of all that oil money. Has the presence of oil in any of these countries made them safe secure and free?
For the most part, the presence of oil in these countries allows the government not to need its people. I would like you to go to Nigeria and talk to the local people about Shell oil. I would like you to go to the Ecuadorian Rainforest and talk to local indians about oil companies focefully driving them off their lands, polluting the water to the point of no fish and skin lesions when you bath. Where do we even start with Saudi Arabia and the others.
Afganistan? The first contruaction project startes was the pipeline from the caspian sea oil. Who is Karzai?
Who is Hugo Chavez and why is he so powerful in the world right now? He can buy anyone he wants with his oil.
Where did Osama get his money. Where did Bush get his money. How much blood is on those four hands.
If all we need is eco-friendly canadian oil, WHY THE SNOT ARE WE IN IRAQ! Why has there been a million dollar a day aircraft carrier parked in the gulf since how long now?
Furthermore even if oil was harvested in a people and earth friendly matter, why would that make us any more entiteled to so blatantly waste it? Oil is a good and useful tool. All it is is carbon and hydrogen configured in different ways. All it is is energy. Wasting energy sucks, it makes you angry and tired and prone to accidents. Iraq was a accident because we have wasted too much energy and werent thinking clearly anymore. Impatient, rushing, we acted before thinking, made a mistake and BOOM our day got a hell of a lot longer. That a familiar feeling from jobs gone bad? Wasted energy.
Water for the most part is blood free yet for that reason should we treat it like we wont have to use it again one day?
Poteet, I mean you or your trucks no personal offense by my comments in this thread, I have seen your trucks and your climbers and I can say you bring a true proffesional and good image to the trade. I admire that, and I trust that your truck will be used responsibly and efeciently.
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