Fu*%face Von Clownstick

Fair enough Evo, point taken.

The problem as I see it is that unless something is done to stop mass immigration into Europe from the Middle East and North Africa, Europe will see a significant rise in both Islamic extremism and the inevitable far right response mainly due to mainstream political parties burying their heads in the sand.

Have you heard of Tommy Robinson? He was the leader of the English Defence League, widely regarded as a far right street protest movement. It's not until I listened to his speech at the Oxford Union, Oxford University I realised he was anything but a far right moron.

What I discovered was that he's actually a very brave person who stood up to hardline Islamists who spread their hate throughout the UK.

To this day Robinson is portrayed as a social pariah by the mainstream British media, police and the courts.

He not only confronted hardline Islamists but had to confront Nazis who wanted to seize control of his organisation from outside the UK (Germany)

His story is a warning about the dangers of institutionalised political correctness and the failure of the British establishment to confront extremist Islamists in the UK.

If you don't have the time to watch it skip to 32.10 to see what finally pushed (after years of concern) Robinson into setting up the EDL - it was basically the sight of a notorious hardline Islamist group brazenly converting a 11 year old English kid to Islam in front of one of the largest shopping malls in the UK (video clip)

I think many Americans would be shocked at what's been happening in Europe over the last 20 years.



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I wish the Q&A session had been included. Curious what possible grievance any rational person could have with what he said. He went to great pains to explain that he was not painting all Muslims with a broad brush. Even made it clear that Muslims are welcome to join the EDL.

That's a brave man. A regular guy who just had enough.
 
I wish the Q&A session had been included. Curious what possible grievance any rational person could have with what he said. He went to great pains to explain that he was not painting all Muslims with a broad brush. Even made it clear that Muslims are welcome to join the EDL.

That's a brave man. A regular guy who just had enough.

Agree Bucknut.

Here's the Q & A -



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Fair enough Evo, point taken.

The problem as I see it is that unless something is done to stop mass immigration into Europe from the Middle East and North Africa, Europe will see a significant rise in both Islamic extremism and the inevitable far right response mainly due to mainstream political parties burying their heads in the sand.

Have you heard of Tommy Robinson? He was the leader of the English Defence League, widely regarded as a far right street protest movement. It's not until I listened to his speech at the Oxford Union, Oxford University I realised he was anything but a far right moron.

What I discovered was that he's actually a very brave person who stood up to hardline Islamists who spread their hate throughout the UK.

To this day Robinson is portrayed as a social pariah by the mainstream British media, police and the courts.

He not only confronted hardline Islamists but had to confront Nazis who wanted to seize control of his organisation from outside the UK (Germany)

His story is a warning about the dangers of institutionalised political correctness and the failure of the British establishment to confront extremist Islamists in the UK.

If you don't have the time to watch it skip to 32.10 to see what finally pushed (after years of concern) Robinson into setting up the EDL - it was basically the sight of a notorious hardline Islamist group brazenly converting a 11 year old English kid to Islam in front of one of the largest shopping malls in the UK (video clip)

I think many Americans would be shocked at what's been happening in Europe over the last 20 years.



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I think many of us in USA have no real experience of this kind of thing. Our (US internal) experiences with Muslims or Eastern peoples has been, on the whole, pretty good with a few exceptions. (Our external relations are another matter). We love our friends and it may be because we don't have political Islam really in our culture in the way that it appears to have gained ascendency in Europe. Muslims who live in the USA generally are able to privatize their religion like everybody else. That is why I find your posts interesting/challenging and hope to learn more.

You'd be hard pressed to find people in the USA who had been intimidated by Pakistani hoodlums in the way that Robinson had, though. A lot of the blowback you are getting from our west coast guys is because we don't have your experience here. I think there might be a misimpression about how our immigration policy works. Its widely known that entry into our country is extremely selective and there is already a 2 year process for people coming from certain countries in the Middle East. Maybe others can speak to this, but there just isn't the same degree of isolation between the two cultures in the USA as Muslims experience in Europe.
 
The view here from Indian country is:
All white people are criminally trespassing on land that isn't theirs while worshipping a God that doesn't exist.

That should shut-up the right white wing nuts who bitch about entitlements but couldn't exist without them (re: farmers, ranchers, energy industries, top 500 fortunists and bible-thumping Christian politicals.

Fearful, frightened bunch who embrace hatred, fight science, and overpopulate.

There. I feel better.
 
The view here from Indian country is:
All white people are criminally trespassing on land that isn't theirs while worshipping a God that doesn't exist.

That should shut-up the right white wing nuts who bitch about entitlements but couldn't exist without them (re: farmers, ranchers, energy industries, top 500 fortunists and bible-thumping Christian politicals.

Fearful, frightened bunch who embrace hatred, fight science, and overpopulate.

There. I feel better.


A great example of delusional Marxism combined with white guilt religion. It also sounds culturally suicidal and generally misanthropic, I only included 'misanthropic' because you used 'overpopulate', the surest sign of a misanthrope.


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The "so called" president can't hear us - he is too busy playing golf at Mar-a-lago for $1 million a day.

Mar-A-Lago is one of his personal residences, he's bringing President Xi there in April. Think about it, he's inviting the leader of China to his own home, not his place of work, most people would do the same with an oversees visitor in order to make them feel more welcome.

If I travelled from the UK to meet you to discuss business relating to treework, an invite to your home to meet your family etc would naturally make me feel more welcome, building trust. I would do the same likewise.

I hear working from home is becoming more popular these days anyway.


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About as ugly as white can get but sure is good for big oil, wall street, and Russian aggression. Oh, and the right wing version of god (the hateful one who hates facts and fags but little boys and high school wrestling teams are fair game).
 
The "so called" president can't hear us - he is too busy playing golf at Mar-a-lago for $1 million a day.



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Shane, don't get me wrong dude.. Trump is.. Uh... Well.... Whatever.
But what's with the quotations? And all these "not my president" things I see everywhere. Like it or not.. He indeed is your president. I think people are missing the picture. In my mind.. It's less about trump and this asshat WE (canada) have as a leader, and more about the confidence that our people have in our political system. This all just feels like radical knee jerk reactions to radical feelings of neglect from existing run of the mill politicians.. Regardless of party. What state of mind are we in as a collective group to even CONSIDER this.. Let alone have it happen. Maybe it will be the downfall of the corrupt shit political system we have in north America. Doubt it, though.
 

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