Fraxinus help (please)

[JefLong]

Hi folks, need help with 3 ash trees if you please, pretty sure they're North American flavours, but might easily be mistaken about that

1. immature specimen, I'm not even 100% sure its a Fraxinus, probably an ornamental cultivar. This is not seasonal colour, it is late summer here

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• JefLong
• Feb 28, 2016

unknown Fraxinus 1

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• JefLong
• Feb 28, 2016

unknown Fraxinus 1 - leaf

2. Maybe more common USA ash? Ive seen hundreds of these

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• JefLong
• Feb 28, 2016
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unknown Fraxinus 2 - tree

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• JefLong
• Feb 28, 2016

unknown Fraxinius 2 - leaf

3. larger and noticeably more serrated leaf

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• JefLong
• Feb 28, 2016

unknown Fraxinus 3 - tree

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• JefLong
• Feb 28, 2016

unknown Fraxinus 3 - leaf

thanks for your time, best

 

[robinia]

Here are my guesses:
1.) Not sure. Maybe some new cultivar of F. excelsior? It would be nice to see a close up of the buds.
2.) Probably plain old F. pennsylvanica. Especially if you've been seeing hundreds. It may just look a bit different because it's a female and has a very heavy seed crop.
3.) I would guess F. angustifolia

 

[JefLong]

Thank you so much Robina. I think you nailed #2 & 3, further research indicates #1 might be a claret ash (Fraxinus angustifolia subsp. oxycarpa) it's an Australian cultivar.

Best

 

[Stihlmadd]

I would agree on 1 being claret ash and 3 being the desert ash (feral bloody pest)

 

[JefLong]

... the desert ash (feral bloody pest)

They're all over Melbourne too mate, everywhere i look

 

[Stihlmadd]

on the pest weed list here - kill on site without mercy.