FlyReelThrowLineHolder

[frans]

dont know if this is already known about or maybe not needed by alot of folks but:
Got this reel from Sport Mart $25.00 It holds about 80' of zing-it. I use it when in the tree and need to get my rope around an overhead limb that is too far to throw my rope over.
Frans

 

[rfwoodvt]

Frans,

do you take the line off the reel before you toss it or do you let the throw weight pull it off as it goes?

Also, when it's on the reel, how do you keep the line from stripping off until you need it?

 

[Tom Dunlap]

Jerry gave me the idea too.

I bought an old, made in '47, fly reel at the flea market for $12 and loaded it with umpteen feet of Spectra kite string. The cool thing about this reel is that it has a rewind just like a measuring tape.

I strip out as much line as I need for my toss. Then, when everything is done, I hit the button and zingadee doo dah the line is back inside! It doesn't have enough pull to lift the throwbag though.

 

[frans]

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Frans,

do you take the line off the reel before you toss it or do you let the throw weight pull it off as it goes?

Also, when it's on the reel, how do you keep the line from stripping off until you need it?

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Still playing around with it. Once I pulled the line off before hand the other time did'nt. It has a drag on it which lets the spool freewheel or not.

The drag also holds the line onto the reel but I also click the throwbag ring onto the biner

Gerry Baranek first showed me the idea and I have seen alot of other climbers use this method.
It works, it is cheap (good for me), and it fills a need in my climbing

 

[treebear]

Seems like a great idea, I´m gonna give it a shot.
Svein
www.hogstogrydding.no

 

[Tom Dunlap]

Here's a pic of my whole kit. Everything goes into the New Tribe line mug. The reel has a lanyard made from parachute cord. There's a running bowline that chokes around my wrist. This eliminates the Fumblies and there are times when I need both hands. I'm going to get another smaller bag like a Harrison Rocket. The NT Grappel is in the bag too.

 

[Tom Dunlap]

The leash is choked on my wrist. I pay out as much line as I need. Then when I'm done the chrome tab is pushed and the line is reeled back inside.

 

[Tom Dunlap]

The line is Specra that Sherrill [used to ???] sell. It's like big dental floss. The line is very slippery. In order to make a loop to tie on the line I had to use a figure eight on a bite and set it with two pliers. In order to get the line off the ring of the throw bag I tied another figure eight with a mouse ear-sized bite. That makes a little tab that I can pull to invert the choke.

 

[Gareth]

Hey Tom , What's up with that small grapple ? How does it work ? I've used larger grapples before with retractable claws when i was doing heli logging.

 

[Tom Dunlap]

In the attachment, the climber is in the left tree but wants to have a line in the right tree. The throw line is set through the branch union on the right. This is the blue line. Enough line is paid out to have the vertical piece of blue is long enough to come back to the left tree.

The grapple is girth hitched onto the horizontal blue line. To add extra weight which would counterbalance the bag on the vertical line, I clip a biner to the eye of the grapple and girth hitch the biner above the grapple. This keeps the biner from flopping around.

Let the grapple drift over towards the vertical line. This is the red line. After jiggling things around, the grapple will snag the vertical line. Yard it in and you have a line set.

I learned another trick that I haven't tried. Use an Aerobie ring, like a Frisbee but a large ring, to set the line. The ring is the target to snag with another line. The detail that I need to have cleared up is how does the throwline not get snaggled when the Aerobie is thrown?

 

[RogerM]

Time to go find me one of those grapples!

 

[RogerM]

Done! NewTribe calls them "grapnel"? 2-5days away.

 

[glens]

Grapnel \Grap"nel\, n. [OE. grapenel, dim. fr. F. grappin the
grapple of a ship; of German origin. See Grape.] (Naut.)
A small anchor, with four or five flukes or claws, used to
hold boats or small vessels; hence, any instrument designed
to grapple or hold; a grappling iron; a grab; -- written also
grapline, and crapnel.
[1913 Webster]

 

[Tom Dunlap]

There is one shortcoming of the NT grapple, that's my preference . It's built really strong. If you snag something and can't unhook the grapple you could find yourself stuck. Some folks have used heavy copper wire to form a the same. Solder three or four hunks together. They would straighten if you pulled your throwline but be strong enough to pull any lines.

There are other uses for the NT grapple though. I've used it to lift out hangers before climbing a tree. Snaggin stuck lines and false crotches that got stuck. In those cases a heavy duty tool is needed.

Get the NT and make up a copper wire one too. Can't have too many tools you know!

 

[pantheraba]

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I learned another trick that I haven't tried. Use an Aerobie ring, like a Frisbee but a large ring, to set the line. The ring is the target to snag with another line. The detail that I need to have cleared up is how does the throwline not get snaggled when the Aerobie is thrown?

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Do you mean that a line is attached to the ring when you throw it? Sounds impossible.

 

[Mahk_Adams]

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[1913 Webster]

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That's an oldie...

 

[glens]

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grapple, that's my preference

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Of course it is, since you like to refer to arboriculture as "arboculture" (and arborist as "arbost"?), hahaha!

For attaching a line to a frisbee-like device, it would need to be done in the center, on a swivel, I'd think. Shouldn't be too awfully difficult to do, but the necessary trajectory would be mighty different. Seems a boomerang would be the best tool for the job in any event since it'd come right back to you

 

[RogerM]

What about a remote control helicopter?

 

[sarumono]

We are trying to train squirrells to do the line setting for us.

 

[Tree_Machine]

ReelThrowLineHolder

Lurking around the Buzz I came across this thread, and what a strange coincidence. Just today I created a shotline reel for Tom as a gift for him as I'll be seeing you all at EXPO.

The one I made for Tom today is pretty much the same one I've been using for the last year. It's the 7th prototype in a line of shotline reels I've been using for the last 9 years.

Before I go any further, I just want to thank Glen. He's come to do climbs with me a couple times and he's seen the line reel in action. I asked him to not share it, that I wished to do that personally when the time came. The temptation had to be there in this thread and a previous sholine thread on the Buzz, but he's respected my wish on this.

The first time we climbed he saw me fire a 10 oz Harrison a full 75 feet, nailed the target limb right off the reel, on the first shot (OK, a little bit of luck, but not at all unusual). Glen, I appreciate your integrity.