Fly Rope

Re: the heat-shrink tubing.

Greg, bear in mind that I've never spoken with the guys at sherrill about this. But I have put a bit of thought into it. As we've already covered, the whip is really a cosmetic thing on this rope, in a manner of speaking. I don't think that gives them much incentive to put a lot of time and energy into that part of the splice. Like Brian so respectfully hinted...they are in a business and a better whipping means more time means less money for them.

I'd settle for a respectable priced splice and we can continue to whip our own ropes when needed.

love
nick
 
Re: the heat-shrink tubing.

The shrink wrap and whipping quikly fell of only 1 out of about 8 hanks we own. I rewhipped it no shrink wrap and everything is fine.
 
Re: the heat-shrink tubing.

My first hank of fly still had the shrink tube on after about six months of climbing. That is from fall through winter though. I left that hank with Mr. Pez in Wales with the shrink wrap intact.

I now have another hank and the shrink wrap is intact after two months of summer climbing. I use the Rope Guide ALL of the time and the RG hasn't peeled off the shrink wrap. I check the whipping all of the time to make sure that the splice isn't slipping.

My preference is to have a really snug eye to keep my biner from flopping around. At first I used nylon wire ties to snug up the eye. Sometimes they snag on the RG so I'm going to use some 3mm kernmantle and tie constrictor hitches around the eye. I wonder how many constrictors it would take to make an eye as strong as a tucked splice. I've talked with Brion and Stanley and they both say that seizing an eye can make it just as strong but that is only recommended for lines that are not subjected to loads and slack. More for standing rigging on boats.

Tom
 
Re: the heat-shrink tubing.

Tom,it seems that even 3mm cord can be a bit bulky. Do you have any waxed seizing twine, like the kind made by Marlow? That stuff would add practically NO additional bulk.

love
nick

Let me know if you need some, I can send you a piece!
 
Re: the heat-shrink tubing.

60 or 80 lb spiderwire Spectra fishing line is super tiny and plenty strong enough for whipping. Way stronger than waxed twine.
 
Re: the heat-shrink tubing.

I agree, the tiny thread makes a nice whip. The 3 mil that I have is a bright orange with a blue tracer. I like the look of this setup when I put the constrictors on and hot cut the ends short.
 
Re: the heat-shrink tubing.

Even though you say they dont spend much time on the whipping , it still doesnt take much time to do a good whipping . You think , spending an extra few minuts is going to kill their splicing business? I doubt it . I use wax string holds up much etter then the heavy cordage they use.

165 ...thanks for your tactful reply. I wish evryone would reply in such a subtle manner like you .

It was just a question in case someone asked the question to me . I have never returned a splice because I splice my own ropes except for the fly, which is a recent rope to me. I'm also glad to hear that $18.00 and $28.oo is just throw away money for you .Not evryone sees it that way .
 
Re: the heat-shrink tubing.

Is there any problem with whipping a rope with a twine that is much stronger than the rope itself?

I can envision a high strength wipping cutting into the rope under a heavy load, especially a thin whipping rope.
 
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