Floating anchors

i'll def be at the apf paolo, looking forward to seeing your harness as i might be in the market for either yours or beddes offering. if you're not too busy(which im sure u will be) i'd like to talk to you more about srt
 
I'm not sure if what Beddes did in queenstown was the same as I wasn't there.

In guildford he demonstrated the masters climb after the masters (of that comp)had done it. He footlocked up a twin rope in the usual fashion. Then, maybe two thirds up, he lanyarded in. He then tied an alpine butterfly in each leg of the access line below the footlock strop. He clipped a biner into each of those knots and ran his ddrt rope through both of them. Removed the footlock strop and lanyard and then completed the climb from those two biners.

Effectivly he had made a giant cambium saver. On completion of the climb he pulled his ddrt rope out through the biners and then pulled out the access line. One of the biners would come straight down while the other would go up, over the TIP and then down. There wasn't a back up to remove because th etwo biners were fixed on the rope.

He could of had a small shackle next to one biner and clipped to the friction hitch side of the ddrt rope so removal of that rope would initaite the removal of the access line just like a rope guide.

Make any sense???
 
Paolo.

I completly understand the effectiveness of the frog method and srt etc but I do think that all the extra hardware involved is expensive, and the most proffitable tree surgeons seem to be the ones the least kit. Thats why I'm always skint!

In the long term of course this kit would pay off in reducing the MSD's etc but for now steve is trying something new to him (work) and so the more he can achieve with less gear the better. In time once a favoured method is found he and many others will be buying the extra kit.

I'll catch up with you at the APF, keen to see the new Harnesses from both camps.
 
Rupe,
I do understand what you're saying about the two carabiners although I've never thought of that before, sounds cool. As long as the TIP is not too tight, making it a possibly difficult retrieval. But when I saw Beddes do a climb in Queenstown he ascended his access line using a footlock strap and then put in a back-up below the prussik on the footlock strap and switched to Ddrt that was already attached to his FL strap.
He did his climbing demonstration and then descended with the Ddrt system. When he reached the ground he pulled out his back-up, however he did it, and a carabiner slid down the rope to the ground and all he had to do was pull up and down on his access line to loosen off his prussik on the FL strap. I swear this is how it happened, although I was so impressed that I didn't even think to ask him at the time, how the %@#* did he do that. Anyway, any ideas would be good as I cannot seem to find a way to set a back-up that is removeable from the ground. Ok, thanks again, Russell.
 
Actually I think I may have seen MArk Bridge showing how to do something like that to someone at ground level, so I've not seen it working but I remember him showing a knot that you tie back and forth as a stopper knot then somehow it unravels. Perhaps he could expalin further. Mark?
 
Sounds like the alternating slip-hitch technique. Knut showed it to me a few years back. It just requires pulling out slip knots from alternating sides of the access line. Not sure if that would pass the ITCC comm. now?
 
That method was shown and discussed in a previous thread, but I haven't been able to find it.

I think that Mark is right, this method would not be allowed in the ITCC. A 'slipped' hitch (even in a series) would require a carabiner to secure it. ANSI doesn't mention it however...
 
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