Fast forward pruning.

Hey Murphy..... Big Tree LOL!
One should examine oneself for a very long time before thinking of condemning others. The best way to succeed in life is to act on the advice we give to others
You talk a big game, for someone who calls themselves a climber, when you only go up 10 ft on every tree and put a notch in it. Quit under-cutting your killing the industry! How bout you show us a video on proper pruning, like to see that! haha ô¿ô
I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said. Go put your creed into your deed.
Hey Just an FYI: There are two kinds of morality side by side, one which we preach but do not practice and another which we practice but seldom preach. Consider how hard it is to change yourself and you'll understand what little chance you have in trying to change others.
Just remember, there's a right way and a wrong way to do everything and the wrong way is to keep trying to make everybody else do it the right way. Take Care
 
Experience doesn't make it right... we all know people that have been butchering trees for 25-30 years... they don't change becasue they never learned better. Sounds like you could teach them a thing or two..

And ya.. it a tough position to be in.. having to do what you're told no matter the consequences to the tree. Do you take a lot of big limbs (over 4-6") off mature trees? Hopefully you can find a little wiggle room for compromise, giving the boss what he needs, while showing him a little of what can be done instead.. generally clients can be educated and will listen to how a tree "should" be pruned, if it is explained well.. Unfortunately bosses and other tree guys are far less likely to want to hear the bad news that they've been doing it all wrong for decades. ;)

"crown cleaning" sounds good on paper, but in the real world it too often ends up gutting the interior of every green leaf, mostly becasue arbs just don't know what else to cut.. That used to be me, until I learned better.. This is a good place to learn better.


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Just about everything we do to trees is unnecessary from the trees point of view, so no matter wether your 'gutting' a crown or carrying out a light thin and hazard deadwood you need to remember we prune trees for people not for the trees. Take this argument to it's logical conclusion and every single one of us working on trees are doing nothing more than satisfying the client's requests to a greater or lesser degree at the expense of the tree's natural state.

I used to think like that too... however have become much more inclined to recommend reduction pruning to prevent storm damage and summer limb drop. Good luck with it all 223.
 
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Hey Murphy..... Big Tree LOL!
One should examine oneself for a very long time before thinking of condemning others. The best way to succeed in life is to act on the advice we give to others
You talk a big game, for someone who calls themselves a climber, when you only go up 10 ft on every tree and put a notch in it. Quit under-cutting your killing the industry! How bout you show us a video on proper pruning, like to see that! haha ô¿ô
I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said. Go put your creed into your deed.
Hey Just an FYI: There are two kinds of morality side by side, one which we preach but do not practice and another which we practice but seldom preach. Consider how hard it is to change yourself and you'll understand what little chance you have in trying to change others.
Just remember, there's a right way and a wrong way to do everything and the wrong way is to keep trying to make everybody else do it the right way. Take Care

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What's up (with the attitude) Timmy?

You stuck on beans and rice? Its a cutthroat biz.. you should have gone to college if you can't hang with the big boys.. Did you ever read the book, "who moved the cheese"? When Rick cut the prices of big removals by 50%, we had to learn how to compete.. Stop your moaning and get busy bumping your skills and equipment to next level..

You asked to see a vid on proper pruning..
HOW 'BOUT 7?

http://youtu.be/xtteLBIJz-Q


http://youtu.be/V5EVCqsb_Vk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ4Zr6WdjMo


http://youtu.be/bDKTXJc8mcE


http://youtu.be/j36V8dchcqE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzvlqZMK3Es

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAT21iNgask
 
Thank you! We're all refreshed and challenged by your unique point of view. I'm not so good with the advice, can I interest you with a sarcastic comment... I'm not going to waste my time teaching you something you couldn't be bothered to learn for yourself. The trouble with you is that you lack the power of conversation but not the power of speech. Don't be humble, you're not that great.
I'll try being nicer if you'll try being smarter. I don't know what your problem is Dan, but I'll bet it's hard to pronounce. I could eat a bowl of alphabet soup and out a smarter statement than that. If you're gonna be a smartass, first you have to be smart. Otherwise you're just an . Hey tell you what...get your saddle on.. I’ll see you at the top buddy.
I could agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong... If you find it hard to laugh at yourself, I would be happy to do it for you.
 
Ricks being brought into the picture again..... I have to say, I cant stand the way his crews do work and its amazing no body has goten killed while working under his name. Look at it this way though, if you build a quality customer base by only excepting to do quality work, then you will have no problem being around longer then him. FYI, for the guys working in competition to Rick, he just built a house in Hawaii and plans to run it via computer from there. Having a guy that currently bids on jobs (and admits to not getting out of the car to really look at the tree half the time) to run it from the shop. I dont think you will have much to worry about seeing how I dont see the company being around much longer...... And no I didnt stay at Ricks very long, I like to think I am way better then that place. Would never lower myself to there standards.
 
If you want a challenge.. how bout you put your saddle on and I'll jump in the 75' elevator an see whose more productive..

Or I could just (continue to) kick your A$$ with a pen...

At 24 you ought to have a little more respect... I've been cutting trees longer than you've been alive! And from that perspective, I can tell you one thing... Its better to have friends in this business than enemies...
 
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Ricks being brought into the picture again..... I have to say, I cant stand the way his crews do work and its amazing no body has goten killed while working under his name. Look at it this way though, if you build a quality customer base by only excepting to do quality work, then you will have no problem being around longer then him. FYI, for the guys working in competition to Rick, he just built a house in Hawaii and plans to run it via computer from there. Having a guy that currently bids on jobs (and admits to not getting out of the car to really look at the tree half the time) to run it from the shop. I dont think you will have much to worry about seeing how I dont see the company being around much longer...... And no I didnt stay at Ricks very long, I like to think I am way better then that place. Would never lower myself to there standards.

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maybe not killed, but at least paralyzed.. Client of mine works for Werner Ladders.. some x-con (for murder) that works for Ricks got paralyzed and is suing the ladder company, claiming he got injured cause of a defective step ladder.
 
It helps to think in tree time; not what it looks like now but how it will respond in 3-5-10 years. Good point about the role of the climber vs the role of the salesperson.
 
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as Ned would say

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It helps to think in tree time; not what it looks like now but how it will respond in 3-5-10 years. Good point about the role of the climber vs the role of the salesperson.

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Guy,
I generally think of tree time as 25-50+ years..
 
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It helps to think in tree time; not what it looks like now but how it will respond in 3-5-10 years. Good point about the role of the climber vs the role of the salesperson.

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Guy,
I generally think of tree time as 25-50+ years..

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How many decades is 50 years?



I ask because your website confuses me. On your front page it says,

" Daniel Murphy, with 30+ years experience..." and then it says "...practical knowledge of trees that only comes from watching and working with these great beings for almost 3 decades."


So is 50+ years more or less than 5 decades?


Also, I am updating my resume, and I have a question about your calculations for tree work experience when responding to a hurricane.

Your website states "A month of hurricane clean is about equivalent to a year of doing regular tree work, and this “combat” experience further ads [sic] to Daniel’s depth of experience. "

In 1996, I went to Raleigh for 2 weeks when Fran hit. Does this mean that I accumulated 6 months of experience from those two weeks?



Thanks for your time and consideration.

SZ
 
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If you want a challenge.. how bout you put your saddle on and I'll jump in the 75' elevator an see whose more productive..

Or I could just (continue to) kick your A$$ with a pen...

At 24 you ought to have a little more respect... I've been cutting trees longer than you've been alive! And from that perspective, I can tell you one thing... Its better to have friends in this business than enemies...

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Respect is not accumulated merely for existing. It is earned.
 
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It helps to think in tree time; not what it looks like now but how it will respond in 3-5-10 years. Good point about the role of the climber vs the role of the salesperson.

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Guy,
I generally think of tree time as 25-50+ years..

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How many decades is 50 years?



I ask because your website confuses me. On your front page it says,

" Daniel Murphy, with 30+ years experience..." and then it says "...practical knowledge of trees that only comes from watching and working with these great beings for almost 3 decades."


So is 50+ years more or less than 5 decades?


Also, I am updating my resume, and I have a question about your calculations for tree work experience when responding to a hurricane.

Your website states "A month of hurricane clean is about equivalent to a year of doing regular tree work, and this “combat” experience further ads [sic] to Daniel’s depth of experience. "

In 1996, I went to Raleigh for 2 weeks when Fran hit. Does this mean that I accumulated 6 months of experience from those two weeks?



Thanks for your time and consideration.

SZ

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Has he fixed his spelling errors?
 
www.stumpmunchers.com

"Our well trained operators have hundreds of hours of experience, making us fast and efficient in simply or highly complicated stump removal situations."

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Simply?

"We will blow off all dust and dirt from your driveway, sidewalks, patios, decks etc. And we have specialty equipment to clean up all stump grinding chips from your lawn."

I learned in 7th grade not to start a sentence with AND.

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"Integrity: We do what we say we are going to do, or call you to make other arrangements in case of unforeseen changes."

We do what we say we will, or call with an excuse??

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"Stump Munchers is the brain child of Daniel Murphy, an ISA certified arborist, and recognized author and educator in the tree care industry"

Recognized by who? Where can I buy your book?

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"After the hurricane clean up, Daniel returned to Murphy’s Tree Service, with a new mission, to build Stump Munchers into the leading stump removal company in the region. "

If it takes more than 25x the words used in a sentence to explain the grammatical issues, well you get it.

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In 2003 you left your tree service of 21 years to blah blah blah, that was nine years ago, yet you have NEARLY 30 years of experience. A 4th grader can add 9 and 21 up.

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"For info on how to measure a stump click here."

Where do I click??

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"We’ll set up tarps to protect the house and other sensitive areas from getting blasted with dirt and flying chips, and make sure the lawn, driveway, patio, walks etc.. are left spotless."

There are 3 '...'s in an elipse, 2 is just bad punctuation.

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""Our mission is to provide the best stump grinding service at great price!"
Daniel Murphy, President"

PRESIDENT! Ha, how come you are the one running the machine then pres?

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If you want to be a dick than get your house in order Dani...
 
I will assume that if you keep posting without fixing all the errors that you are ok with the idea of looking like a dummy.
 
Since I don't get out much and the only author I recognize is Dr Seuss, who is this Daniel of which you speak? I feel as being in the industry for this long, I should have heard of him! I'm feeling left out and wish to be enlightened by pearls of wisdom we are seldom accustom to in my particular geographic location.
 
he is an author... I think he wrote the 'fundamentals of general treework', or was it 'on rope', maybe the 'tree climbers companion'?

Oh wait those were written by actual EDUCATORS or people that are respected in this industry.
 
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Dr. Seuss ROCKS!! Fox in Socks is mine and my daughter's fav.

When tweetle beetles fight,
it's called
a tweetle beetle battle.

And when they
battle in a puddle,
it's a tweetle
beetle puddle battle.

AND when tweetle beetles
battle with paddles in a puddle,
they call it a tweetle
beetle puddle paddle battle.
AND...

..... Treebuzz has become -

...a tweetle beetle
noodle poodle bottles
paddled muddled duddled
fuddled wuddled
fox in socks, sir!

Fox in socks,
our game us done, sir.
Thank you for
a lot of fun, sir.

- Many of these conflictory threads would benefit from adopting the attitude of Mr. Knox and walking away......
 

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