Fascism, American-Style

JCB said:
Why would you (anyone) do that?
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I wouldn't, but much like Americans, many Canadians are discouraged by the current state of affairs and their solution is to put a far right leader in charge. We've been there before (as have you) and we all come through it. Just gotta ride out the waves and wait for calmer seas.
 
Burrapeg said:
I dont' recall us being at each others' throats like this before Trump came along. Anyone who says his rhetoric and overall influence has not consistently been divisive is ignoring the truth. As far as I am concerned, the sooner he is in the past and forgotten the better, regardless of which party is in power later.
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That's my biggest issue with the maga movement and current times generally. Kindness has gone out the window.
 
This is another "chicken's coming home to roost" situation. Multiple assassination attempts weren't happening to presidential candidates before Trump. Getting shot at is Trump's fault. All the vitriol and hatred in this forum is from those who hate Trump towards those who prefer him over Kamala or Biden and that is Trump's fault, too.
 
JCB said:
Pick a side!
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That's what they want you to be shouting, my friend. We have so much more in common here than they'd have us believe. As that genetically modified ape Caesar once said, or handsigned, I guess, 'Apes Together Strong'.
Mike Islander said:
...the canoe club we've seen over these last four years.
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Ok, this is funny. Is this a thing people say?
 
JCB said:
What does that mean?
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I have heard Nick Fuentes admit on his podcast that he has come to realize that MAGA is a cult, and the liberals were right, so I would say that he may have changed his tune about many things. I don't know what Serf Life was referencing, so I may be off base, but I haven't seen Serf contradict himself. He is among those of us who have a more nuanced approach to things from what I have read.
 
I wonder if they're backing up all the environment and medicine research offsite again so it won't get deleted? Heard 1.5 deg global temperature rise target for the current year. Don't have the heart to crack a joke on that one. Heard a trump devotee say that medical experts need to be elected. One better - elect nuclear scientists - what could possibly go wrong? Surely nothing
 
Yup, you win again. Nine years of hateful banter is enough. I refer all readers to my original post, in which I said my piece.

But, OK, one more point: When did presidential elections result in the winners running around saying shit like, "We won, and we're gonna fuck the other side up now"? Only since your man came along. Looking for hate? It's in the mirror.
 
treegongfu said:
All the vitriol and hatred in this forum is from those who hate Trump towards those who prefer him over Kamala or Biden.
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True. But their side lost, so they're in emotional pain. And that group of people seem to be more emotional and prone to outrage and victim hood. Not that they don't have things to be upset for, but their response is not surprising.

The psychotic dead legacy media definitely didn't help. Every time they use the words Nazi or dictator they lose another undecided voter, or at least those smart enough to know the definitions of those words, or curious enough to look those words up. (y)
 
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Mike Islander said:
The more I see comments by democrats characterizing Trump, the clearer it is that they've been gaslit. Somehow they aren't curious enough about truth to take literally seconds to find out the truth. When truth contradicts a falsehood that supports a position of hate, it's hard to convince someone to be interested.

Here is some court documents showing massive voting irregularities in the 2020 election, well more than necessary to steal Trump's win. When all is said and done, did he actually win? I don't know. But clearly he had piles of reasons to doubt the results on Jan. 6. A stolen eiection is essentially a coup. Armed resistance would have been justified. But Trump didn't do that.

In 2020 Trump only needed 43,000 more votes to win. How much election fraud does it take to literally steal the election? 43,000. How many actual documented ballots are in question? Far more than that. Trump probably should have held off the election confirmation due to massive fraud. You could justify it based on constitutional voter disenfranchisement. But he didn't. He turned over the presidency to Biden right on time.

SUPPORTING MY CLAIM using AI Analysis (Claide.ai, which is documented to not be biased in favor of conservatives. Buy to move this beyond reproach, I had it just document actual court records):

Based on documented cases and court records, here are key instances of ballot irregularities:
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And challenges were put through the courts, many times, without finding all this "massive" fraud --which partly was asserted prior to voting, even.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-election_lawsuits_related_to_the_2020_U.S._presidential_election
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After the 2020 United States presidential election,
the campaign for incumbent President Donald Trump
and others filed 62 lawsuits contesting election processes,
vote counting, and the vote certification process in 9 states
(including Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania,
and Wisconsin) and the District of Columbia.[1][2]

Nearly all the suits were dismissed or dropped
for lack of evidence or lack of standing,[3]
including 30 lawsuits that were dismissed by the judge
after a hearing on the merits.[4]

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JCB said:
All I Know:

I hope that the new Trump electorate accepts that they (as individuals) willfully and openly conspired to elect a dangerous candidate (and his coterie) who promised to destroy our country and our partnerships abroad. The laws that could have disqualified this convicted/dog-whistling presidential candidate were overlooked and overwritten by the highest courts. The January 6th Insurrection—and Trump’s 9-year-long campaign—sought and achieved the same goals: to instill hatred and to Make Trump a King!

Outlandish, you say! It’ll never happen! Pshaw! No one can convince millions of voters to work against their own current- and long-term interests—all to receive nothing in return. Ah, but we failed to consider the mindless embrace of cults.

In cults, any number of folks can prove willing to trust a charming, iconic personality to oversee their reasoning, decisions, freedoms, worldly assets, and daily existence. And Trump is the Master Coercer! His devotees elected candidates hell-bent on “blowing up!” our most fundamental AMERICAN precepts. Yes, they chose Jerry Springer for president, with that Show’s contestants filling in as Cabinet secretaries. But this time they got an added bonus: This time, these usurpers took the non-cult-members (including the Planet and its Peoples) down to Hell with them—irretrievably and irrevocably.

I hear Trump voters crying out, “Both candidates were of equal merit and temperament, and we chose based solely on policy distinctions, such as, “Is our man despicable enough to win?” “Is He really the Messiah?”” In future, let these revisionists recite those fantastical flagellations to their doubting descendants. The rest of us have learned (Project 2025) that the coming kleptocracy will doggedly dispose of our rights, legacies, services, and securities. I’ll never forgive any individual for helping to elect Trump this time around. It’s a bridge too far.

Voters spent decades listening to the Mad Man and his “concepts.” They made their choice with stubborn determination: No apologies; no take-backs; no excuses! I just hope that these pride-filled Americans will clearly identify themselves: Perhaps a nice tattoo, celebrating “the day the music died.” They have lived closeted, hypocritical lives for much too long.

. . . And I am suddenly one who would vote to split the Nation in two. Who do I see about that . . . MTG?

Meanwhile, there are confused, damaging, backward, and sad times ahead—no matter what our age. I primarily blame the emotional, cognitive, and societal debilitation caused by smart phones and social-media. (There would be no Trump without Twitter.) But even with limitless data on their devices, these voters blindly made this self-obliterating, no-way-out decision—all while disguised as patriots. Throw down your damned phones now! Oh . . . never mind! The damage is done.

Yes, it’s too late to close the barn door, but never forget what those horses carried off with them:
1. Our ability to learn; to reason; to care for each other; to grow kinder, more secure, and happier.
2. Our moral centers, which taught us to treat every race, gender, and minority with 100% Equal Respect—every day!
3. First and foremost, this approval of Trump’s agenda tacitly bans further original thinking and—at least symbolically—the freedom to ever again complain, about anything.

Trump voters may conclude that the “thinking and complaining” restrictions above don’t apply to them because they are "grandfathered" into the system. It's true, Republicans have shown a preternatural ability to stifle their thoughts and tongues; in fact, it was that cowardice that landed us in this swamp.

I never doubted some rich white guys would someday overrun this country—but to see it meekly handed over to society’s known-worst elements in this velvet revolution is revolting. Leave it to us Americans to have no idea what we stand for at this crucial juncture. Thinking citizens understood that we no longer deserved to be seen as the world's greatest democracy, but we mightily hoped to be worthy again, one day. But now a slim majority has conceded the power to dream and aspire, for all of us, forever.

Well, the future is theirs: Maybe these eager voters should get a head start on their studies, by reading Mein Kampf perhaps? Or, how about playing wargames in Puerto Rico? Yes, I understand (viscerally and intellectually) that I am now in the political/cultural minority, and that I must question the motives and morals of 53% of my fellow townspeople (or, by my personal estimate, the 40% of drivers who raged at me and my picket sign on Tuesday). Misogyny, racism, selfishness, and immorality have won.

So, I say this to the New Order: “Congratulations! Ultimately, your successes will include:
1. spreading chaos and hate in every family, organization, and community;
2. helping to weaken/disparage the current world order and nullifying innumerable international accomplishments;
3. releasing hordes of professed, armed criminals into society to fight your battles (we just condemned Haitian gangs for doing this).”

“But what to do until Inauguration Day!?!”
I recommend smacking yourselves in the head and repeating, “Shame! Stupid! Stupid! Stupid!” I’ll tell you when to stop.

“Good night and good luck!” (E. Murrow)

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The brainwashing evident on this thread is astonishing. If you believe that either party is "fighting" for you you are low IQ. Our entire political system is captured by large corporations and billionaires and politicians deserve nothing more than your scorn. The republic died decades ago and we now live in a corptacracy. Remember when this country was "for and by the people"? Congrats fellas, you are letting the powers that be win by being so divided.

Pro tip: Want to live a happy, fullfilling life? Unplug from the matrix and do the exact opposite of what the government, media, and so called experts tell you.
 
eastsidetimber said:
The brainwashing evident on this thread is astonishing. If you believe that either party is "fighting" for you you are low IQ. Our entire political system is captured by large corporations and billionaires and politicians deserve nothing more than your scorn. The republic died decades ago and we now live in a corptacracy. Remember when this country was "for and by the people"? Congrats fellas, you are letting the powers that be win by being so divided.

Pro tip: Want to live a happy, fullfilling life? Unplug from the matrix and do the exact opposite of what the government, media, and so called experts tell you.
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I agree with a lot of this but fair warning:

Beleiving none of what you see and hear doesn't make you any safer than beleiving all of it; makes you just as easy to take advantage of actually. Unplugging yourself involves discernment. You'll have to rely on some heuristics to get you through it without spending 300 lifetimes actually learning and figuring everything out from scratch. You have to figure out who you can trust, or life becomes pretty pointless.
 
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Matias said:
I agree with a lot of this but fair warning:

Beleiving none of what you see and hear doesn't make you any safer than beleiving all of it; makes you just as easy to take advantage of actually. Unplugging yourself involves discernment. You'll have to rely on some heuristics to get you through it without spending 300 lifetimes actually learning and figuring everything out from scratch. You have to figure out who you can trust, or life becomes pretty pointless.
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The best lies have strong elements of truth, that’s what makes them believable. Discernment is key
 
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