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. The rest of you need to get a life.

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Not a good idea to make excuses when you screw up; instead, man up.
 
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The rest of you need to get a life. There are way better things to worry about I promise.

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It's all good, people have to ask questions, weird stuff has happened on the Buzz in the past. All round yer getting great advice.
-AJ
 
HAHA..

I actually made a new website. I didnt have a lot of time so I just whipped something up.

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I think it says: "This guy knows what he is doing and has nice equipment."
 
I finished last season with a bid on a dead tree next door to where a lineman was killed doing a tree removal favor at the family christmas party with everyone including the kids watching. He was squished in his lanyard.

Everything was going normal on the bid with the husband, then his wife overheard I was planning on climbing the tree and because of the incident next door she started screaming and yelling there was no way the tree could be climbed safely. What could I say I had a plan and a price no problem but I finally got frustrated and told her I didn't need to do it and doubled my price.

That's the fallout from amatuers doing professional work. Normally they would of got a good price and good work and five of their neighbors would call me next season. So I lost that and all the referals that come with it. She thought old retired and resurected bucket trucks would be safer. The dead tree was right under a huge healthy tie in tree, it couldn't of been any safer for a dead tree.

Seems like half our battle is correcting the advice and poor work of amatuers appearing to be professional. The public don't know and neither do well over half of the tree service providers. That's why it's a shady business in more ways than one.
 
SRT is not off-topic.

I don't agree with anyone saying that a climber NEEDS to learn drt first. Just because "we" learned two ropes first doesn't mean up-and-comers have to learn the same way.

I say this because I only use drt on crane removals. That's it. I know that I would have saved a lot of time and effort over the years had I been using srt instead.

Sure, there are ways to make drt work like srt, but why bother? It takes more equipment, is much less elegant, and is more confusing. So, again, SRT is not off-topic here. He asked for a way to cinch the trunk and not gaff out - an SRT line on a limbless trunk, tied off with a knot, is the easiest way to prevent the gaff-out.

Yes, there is a lot to learn here. So, Mr. Greene is learning. Hooray!
 
Gaff outs are trivial, we do them all day long on some trees. SRT with a knot / DRT with an adjustable friction saver on a spar accomplish similar things with similar effort. SRT redirect ease and ascending 1:1 are it's claim to fame. Although good advice I feel it isn't the most relevent skill for someone learning trees after years of bad habits on poles and line clearing.

Maybe a trip to the Shigo library should be the first stop because we know trees are more than just a tall structure.
 
omfg are we still talking about the photo's on my webpage serious? nick you bash me and you bash winch. heck you made a whole web page just to prove your point? your a hater bro a few others on here are too. You read why I used those photo's now come down of your cross use the wood to build a bridge and get over it. I'm not a bad person and I don't give one little crap what you think. You read why I used those photos. I know the world is full of loosers and haters and people that have nothing better to do with there time then try to crush someone who is just trying to improve. Still you amaze me. Shut your silly mouth. Take a pill or whatever f'ed up thing you do and sit in a corner. I never said you where wrong, I never said I was right, I simply came here for help. btw you have given none. your a void of a human. stop posting on my thread stop wasting space and stop breathing plz. I should be adressing the way more realavent posts as those by boreal. instead im wasting time with you. guess you win f'er. I've always said whoever is the most pissed off looses. Well I definatly lost this round. Go die somewhere nick. If you need help with that by all means call me, I'll assist way more then you have me. Apologies to anyone who reads this other then nick... I know its overboard but... damn.
 
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Hello Mr. Greene, I think its great you're here to better yourself, there's a great tool on this forum, click nick's username, then on the next page click ignore this user.

works like a charm.

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Hey Thanks CTM, I didnt know there was a ignore fearture. That will come in handy.
Sent you a PM JGreene, no need to further stir this hornets nest...lol.
Stay safe all.
M.

This made me wonder...
"Gaff outs are trivial, we do them all day long on some trees."
Ummmmmm.....okay. Ive been climbing in spurs for years and years and years, climbed trees with bark over a foot thick(as Im sure we all have), and I am pretty sure I could count the number of gaff outs on my appendages. When I first started it happened more often, but once I learned to actually spur the tree properly it stopped.
I cannot understand why anyone would be gaffing out all day long in some trees, to the point of it becoming insignificant or trivial as said ?
Is that why you all top rope and belay up the tree ?
Im really just curious what would cause all these gaff outs.
 
What causesd all those gaff outs is not slamming my spurs into the tree and just putting weight on them to save my knees. If you don't know the benifits of a top rope and proper climbing techniques, well for one thing they make gaff outs trivial and the whole process painless and effortless and just as fast or faster than old school.

What kind of tree has a foot thick bark?
 
They must be some BIG trees to have bark that thick. Just sayin'
This thread makes me cringe. Not referring to the OP's original question - which I think in itself is fine, but rather all the interpersonal tribal warfare surrounding an unethical / fraudulent website. An unfortunate detour that derailed the ox cart.

I am thankful to have learned a lot about specific gear and climbing techniques on the Buzz.
 
Gong show.
You are known by the company you keep. Going along just to get along seems odd when some here want to give the benefit of doubt to someone Just Because he is new here! And rail against anyone who sticks it to the new guy for presenting himself to the public (via the posted website) as a competent professional, instead of Amateur Hour Inc.
Some of you folks are in denial! That website should not be allowed to be posted here. And I'm just a "new guy" here too, lol.
 
"TreeBuzz.com. was originally designed to extend or build upon the experiences shared at such events as the ISA's ITCC and the TCIA's TCI Expo, as well as local workshops anhd seminars. This type of professional interaction continues to expand our working knowledge about our industry

"Professional interaction"? This might be "interaction", but it ain't professional, nor any different than the interpersonal BS that is posted on other forums.
 
Hey JG nice of you to join us. My first question to you is how are you climbing trees? Have you acquired a proper saddle, climbing line, work positioning lanyard? What about necessary PPE? I get the feeling like this discussion is like learning to swim by jumping into the deep end. What about knots? Which do you know? What have you done to learn more about the dynamics of trees? It's hard to give someone advice/feedback/criticism/direction without an understanding of where they are exactly. While having been a linesman has given you some rudimentary climbing skills sometimes used in today's arboriculture there is much more to it.

When I did the apprenticeship (CTM and I were in the same class) They began with the basic system and then worked up to DDRT systems. SRT wasn't mainstream at that time. The point being was to give the climber a more complete "toolkit" to work with and the ability to assess the pros and cons of newer tools and systems they are seeing.

Like CTM, I was already an experienced climber but it was a good review.

As for your business, you are a business person first, a tree guy second. Understand business fundamentals, understand your market. Who do you want to be out there? The lowest cost provider? The specialist? What exactly? What is the going rate for treework? Charge in the market range.
 
Whoa, what happened here? Miss a couple days here and all hell breaks loose, dayum!

I said give the new guy the benefit of the doubt and a second chance to show his real face. Well thanks JG for showing yours, now the world can see what you're really made of. Instead of a discussion about tools and techniques this turned into a pissing contest way too quickly, where's that "least favorite thread button"?
 
I know this is still the internet but I have come to see the Buzz as a college campus as opposed to the grade school playground I see elsewhere. I hope everybody shakes hands and starts over.
 
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BTW Pelorus, I like that avatar, I've seen that tree somewhere before, I just can't remember where. Maybe I'll remember if I take my supplement pills.
 
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