Failing Pine

How tall is that tree/ length of the bole? It used to be taller is seems, if it is now on the eave. Did it bend over much?

Hard to size up from the pictures.

Looks thick at the base in the picture, though I would suspect that it is thicker due to the lean than it would be if it were upright.
 
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Hell, I would have done it for 7500,00! Including the stump.


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Don't tell me it was more than that!? Looks like it could be 3.5-4k tops..
 
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Hell, I would have done it for 7500,00! Including the stump.


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Don't tell me it was more than that!? Looks like it could be 3.5-4k tops..

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Ha! Its on 4rth street and Colter my friend.
Nothing would make me happier than to see you handle this problem Monday morning. She is a very nice lady and I will reccommend you highly.
 
Fence that area off round the tree now, or use multiple hazard tape/cones at least (crime scene tape will also suffice) stop the public getting anywhere near it, do not put your hand in the split, do not walk under it/ Make sure the house stays evacuated until something is done. Remember especially when you start to work on it that tree could go at any second.
 
Completely agree with Grover.

Get anyone else over there who can take care of it Monday. Doesn't the homeowner have a right to choose anyone they want to? Or is there some kind of contract they can't get out of? Why can't your original guy get over there Monday with this new info you've discovered?

If you can get someone new over there, call the local news people and explain the situation. Not knocking the original guy or even mentioning anything about it. You may get some quality footage in support of pro arborists doing a technical job correctly. If it all comes out before it hits the house you'll be the hero (make sure the homeowner expresses their appreciation to the news crew) and it'll be hard for the original guy to complain much.

Just my thoughts. Be careful amigo.
 
What if the tree tips after I tie my spider legs?
That could happen.
What if I use another crane for my tie in and the tree tips, it will just go through me and my rigging. I have thought alot about this and I think being inside the tree is the safest place to be.If it failed...Id be cradled inside...most likely.Or I could be crushed, depending on where I am and the dynamics of the fall...etc.etc...

Thoughts?
 
I would not even want to be in a crab apple that was falling over! Do NOT climb that tree! Don't even lanyard into it. If you are being supported by one crane while another lifts the pieces, keep your rope in a backpack and don't place yourself in a position where a limb can trap you. This would be a time when using a chainsaw without being tied in twice is certainly the safer option.

Do NOT climb that tree, Jesse!
 
Part of the process of dismantling this tree is creating a safe approach. Look at any measures you can reasonably take to address you're concerns. At some point though, you need to decide whether this is a job you want and can perform.

We await your decision.....
 
I'm sure we've all taken a number of already failed trees off roofs. I'm always surprised at the minimal damage.

This is just an option and not a recomendation. Set it down gently on the house if it is as close as it looks in the video. It's hard to make a call unless I saw it in person. Really a couple shingles are easily replaced, no big deal if you can find a roofer to be there right after the tree is removed. Or have 3/4" plywood protecting the contact spots.

If the angles look right and other trees or ground anchors would work, pull it onto the roof without any cutting but by tipping the root plate. Using back anchors and pull anchors working together.

Two cranes would be better but if none are avalible. I know it sounds nuts but I bet it happens overnight anyway.
 
This just in....
Mark is officialy freaked out. Thats good. We have done our job. He called this morning and assured me that NONONE will be climbing that tree.
We are comtiplating 2 90 tons to stabilize AND another crane for me to work from.
Where will we put 3 cranes? I have no idea. It will be a busy crowded jobsite for sure.

Two cranes tied to this thing.....I dont know.
If it tips..wouldnt it just take the two cranes down too?
Tim and Mark are meeting out there to have aother look today.
Stay tuned
Thanks guys!
 
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This just in....
Mark is officialy freaked out. Thats good. We have done our job. He called this morning and assured me that NONONE will be climbing that tree.
We are comtiplating 2 90 tons to stabilize AND another crane for me to work from.
Where will we put 3 cranes? I have no idea. It will be a busy crowded jobsite for sure.

Two cranes tied to this thing.....I dont know.
If it tips..wouldnt it just take the two cranes down too?
Tim and Mark are meeting out there to have aother look today.
Stay tuned
Thanks guys!

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Whose gonna be tying the slings or whatever onto the stem? just remember that the person doing that job could die from a hideous crushing injury death in an instance.

Is there anyway you can tie the slings, rope or whatever your going to be attaching it with to the crane from a safe distance without putting a man's life at risk for what is essentially a house that can easily be rebuilt.....unlike a human?

Think carefully about it, assess the risk, if the risk is too high then find another way.


Good luck!











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This just in....
Mark is officialy freaked out. Thats good. We have done our job. He called this morning and assured me that NONONE will be climbing that tree.
We are comtiplating 2 90 tons to stabilize AND another crane for me to work from.
Where will we put 3 cranes? I have no idea. It will be a busy crowded jobsite for sure.

Two cranes tied to this thing.....I dont know.
If it tips..wouldnt it just take the two cranes down too?
Tim and Mark are meeting out there to have aother look today.
Stay tuned
Thanks guys!

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Whose gonna be tying the slings or whatever onto the stem? just remember that the person doing that job could die from a hideous crushing injury death in an instance.





Is there anyway you can tie the slings, rope or whatever your going to be attaching it with to the crane from a safe distance without putting a man's life at risk for what is essentially a house that can easily be rebuilt.....unlike a human?

Think carefully about it, assess the risk, if the risk is too high then find another way.


Good luck!


Im on my way to remove the top for now.
2 cranes.
I am not even going to bother taking a flipline up.
I plan to peform EVERY move I make above the load.
I WILL NOT let my lines/gear/spider legs dangle below me into the mess.
I will make every move safe in the event of a failure. I want to watch it fall below me and not become a part of it.
See yall in the afternoon. I have to admit, my heart is beating a mile a minute. Im in self preservation mode.

Tree in the woods...tree in the woods....tree in the wood
oooommmm oooommmm oooommm
Love Jesse












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Set it down gently on the house

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Really?
I don't think this is an option.

Binder the trunk, crib it with timbers, guy it back to a truck or tree, climb it and take it down.
 
It normally would not be an option. But why not, did you see them pound that house on that video? I know, like I say it seems nuts but anything that works is an option, so long as no one gets hurt. A house can be easily repaired. I'd look for any other solution and I'm sure there is one. It could be a lifesaving option in the right situation.

Sacrifice an eavestrough and save a treeworker's life. Hmmm.
 
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