Eye-eye problem, or not

Just a note that I have the exact same beeline eye to eye tail as the one in question, purchased from and spliced by the same company and it has not developed this problem at all in the 4 months of it's service. Could it have been a batch of splices made from a run of beeline which was not perfectly calibrated when maufactured at the Yale factory? ie. abnormal cover slipage?

Good luck with the refund/exchange.
 
Another factor that increases herniation is the number of strands. A rope that has 2 carriers that make up each strand is much more likely to have the core pop out than a rope that has 3 or 4 carriers making up each core strand.

Gaia- I don't think the problem is in the manufacturing step. The rope should be balanced, milked, and zero-ed out in the splicing process. Nor do I think Sherrill spliced them wrong. The zero-ing out process is very integral to the splice.

Hmmmm

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Here is an update for those of you who remember this thread. I just found out today that Sherrill is crediting our accound for the split-tails. I was not told anymore than that. I am assuming that they found the splices to be defective in some way.

The split-tail that I replaced these with was the 8mm Beeline and it is working good for me. The slice is diffent and seems much better than the 10mm stuff that we returned.
 
Got to agree with the consensus of not climbing on it. If something shows signs of unusual wear within such a short time of purchase then back it goes without hesitation. If the company is service-minded then they'll replace it.

Buddy of mine had a similar problem with the rope bridge on his Glide saddle. He let it go as he was told it was only aesthetic. It was deemed unacceptable for the climbing class. Sherrill in Toronto said he had it too long and they couldn't say it was a manufacturer's defect therefore would not replace it for free. That sucked.
 
Ok treehumper, now you got me thinking, never good. Your buddy with the Glide, what was happening with the bridge? Mine is does not have an even diameter. I know that is one sign of damaged rope, but is also common with spliced rope. I have notice the uneven diameter since day one, and it has not changed one bit since then. I figure my next bridge will be the webbing one, or I might just tie my own.
 
That I believe is a result of the spliced ends. The bridge is short so it'll look distorted. If you are concerned go back with it and discuss it with whomever you bought from.

What happened to his bridge was the cover separated and the spliced end started to come thru the middle of the bridge. It slowly opened up more. When I saw it I told him to take it back ASAP. Not because it was a hazard but the life of the bridge would be shortened. Given the cost of the harness you want to get as much time out of it as possible.
 
I seem to be having the same problem with my bee-line (BL). I have had this BL for about 2 weeks and started to see the core potruding from the cover. By the end of the day it was all the way out. So, since I have only climbed with this about 5 to 6 times. I believe a refund is in order don't you think?
 

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I am not a rope expert, but that doesnt look to be the same problem as what I had happen. If they do give you a refund expect to wait a few weeks. We had to buy new ones and then they just credited our account. Good luck.
 
If anyone's still keeping up with this post I just thought I should chime in. Please be reassured that your splice is not defective and the tail (short of full-blown abuse) will not fail.

Manufacturers often have difficulty matching a properly woven polyester mantle over some aramid fibers, we experienced a similar run with Ultra Tech a few years ago. The negative result tends to be herniation of the core showing up as a bulge mid line (that sounds a bit knarley) or sometimes even the core pushing completely through the mantle in what doctors might diagnose as... just kidding. Looking to see who might hurl first.

I've given instruction to customer service to replace herniating ropes without hesitation. Manufacturers don't compensate us for the splice expense, and a few hundred feet of rope is hardly worth the argument so we generally eat this problem. Oh, that's not necessarily true, they make up for it in other ways, such as working through product development or rush stuff we need.

Back to the subject- in essence I just wanted to give some reassurance that SherrillTree is not in the business of distributing unsafe spliced goods. Customer dissatisfaction is a nonprofitable expenditure. There, bet that's what you wanted to hear. Cheers all.
 
Cheers to you Tobe! Now, if you could pass that on to your branch in Brampton, Ontario maybe they'll give a credit to my associate who was denied a replacement for a herniated bridge on his glide saddle.
 
Tobe, thanks for watching this post. In this day and age it is nice to see owners truely concerned about what their customers think. I want to state that I didnt want this to seem like I was not happy with the service or products from Sherrill, because I am happy and I will continue to do business with your company. One thing that suprised me about your post is that Sherrill doesnt do their own splices. I always thought you did that in house and that is one reason why we buy our spliced ropes from you and not other companies. Can you expand on that process?
 
Tobe,

Always a gentleman and in it for the right reasons. Thanks for taking the time to keep us up to date.


EMR, Sherrill Tree does do their own splicing, and it is quite an operation. I think you might have misinterpreted what Tobe was saying.
 
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EMR, Sherrill Tree does do their own splicing, and it is quite an operation. I think you might have misinterpreted what Tobe was saying.

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Yep, I just re-re-read the post and you are correct. Sorry, and glad I was wrong.
 
No worries my friend. Just clearing things up when I can.
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2 summers ago I got to see the Sherrill splicing dept in action down in my old home state, North Carolina. It was really cool to see! I could only hope to have allllll that room to work in. And now they have their own testing equipment.....it's a regular laboratory now!

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i've been using the bee line since it came out have only gone through two of them and have had no problems with them at all. in fact i thanked jamie personally for coming up with them
 
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