Crossbow for line installation...

hatchetation said:
I'm not sure that's correct - the ATF in the US certainly doesn't. They've written several letters to this effect:

The Bureau has previously examined devices known as 'Spud Guns, Potato Guns, or Spudzookas' and have determined that such devices, in and of themselves, are not firearms ... However, any similar devices which can be determined to be weapons by reason of their design construction, intended use, actual use, ammunition or other factors may meet the definition of a firearm

26 U.S. Code § 5845 explicitly mentions line throwing devices:

The term “destructive device” shall not include any device which is neither designed nor redesigned for use as a weapon; any device, although originally designed for use as a weapon, which is redesigned for use as a signaling, pyrotechnic, line throwing, safety, or similar device

Some states and municipalities may ban launchers based on the flammability of the propellant, but most don't. Most people reading this can legally use Aquanet and a sketchy PVC launcher to get a throwline into a tree if it suits them.

I'm a bit disappointed by the tone of most of this thread. The 'Buzz is usually pretty chill about acknowledging that there are many ways to do things, and that different things work for different people.* There are a lot of other forums where you can find all sorts of attitude about The Right Way to do things, I don't think many people look for that here.

* (I use a DIY pneumatic launcher made out of 1" galvanized pipe, with an elastic-actuated ball valve. It weighs like 50 pounds too many, requires custom throw-bags, and its power is on the verge of being underwhelming. But - it was cheap, and works for me! )
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I'm no expert but I read that ATF letter from 1995 a little differently I guess. Either way my point that the APTA is safe and legal remains.


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Pelorus said:
I just can't believe nobody has yet mentioned using a black powder mortar as a line setting device.
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Isn't it August Hunkie who uses a shotgun in one of his videos?
I remember that and the crazy rope wrench-esque friction device at the base of a tree from the video.

@bonner1040
You are so quick to be a dick. Once the threads get going, you usually calm down and tend towards pretty reasonable, if opinionated. I think we'd all love it if you could not take everything quite so personally, and your points here were valid. Something about catching flies with vinegar...
 
I did just buy a compressor for my pick-up and my air brake chip truck I am building ...well, has air. But I like your point with the bike pump! :D
 
SomethingWitty said:
Isn't it August Hunkie who uses a shotgun in one of his videos?
I remember that and the crazy rope wrench-esque friction device at the base of a tree from the video.

@bonner1040
You are so quick to be a dick. Once the threads get going, you usually calm down and tend towards pretty reasonable, if opinionated. I think we'd all love it if you could not take everything quite so personally, and your points here were valid. Something about catching flies with vinegar...
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With exception of the crazy hateful people I thought I've pretty polite lately.


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SomethingWitty said:
I've definitely seen you more impolite in the past. There has been some improvement in your explosiveness since the sherrill/TS thread.
Would you like a sticker?
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I'm just a guy sitting on my couch on Friday night. If you are looking for Mother Theresa you are looking in the wrong place.

Like most people on this forum I speak my mind, however where I diverge from most forum members is that everyone knows my name, email and phone number and I stand behind every word.

I'm not desperate to make friends or impress anyone. Not trying to be a jerk or anything but I don't live and breathe based the Buzz's opinion of me.


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bonner1040 said:
I'm just a guy sitting on my couch on Friday night. If you are looking for Mother Theresa you are looking in the wrong place.

Like most people on this forum I speak my mind, however where I diverge from most forum members is that everyone knows my name, email and phone number and I stand behind every word.

I'm not desperate to make friends or impress anyone. Not trying to be a jerk or anything but I don't live and breathe based the Buzz's opinion of me.


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Totally respectable. I have a lot of your inclinations myself. I am also not a representative face for a company that makes its money from people on treebuzz.
I was just saying that if the argument was presented calmly on the first try, no matter what it was in response to, it would be a lot easier for us, as onlookers, to accept what you say as the stronger argument. You're not losing support based on the merit of your position. In general, you seem to be quite sharp and deserving of respect.

I was serious about the sticker, by the way. Y'all have given me so many.
Can I just mail them back to treestuff and you'll figure out where they came from?
 
SomethingWitty said:
Totally respectable. I have a lot of your inclinations myself. I am also not a representative face for a company that makes its money from people on treebuzz.
I was just saying that if the argument was presented calmly on the first try, no matter what it was in response to, it would be a lot easier for us, as onlookers, to accept what you say as the stronger argument. You're not losing support based on the merit of your position. In general, you seem to be quite sharp and deserving of respect.

I was serious about the sticker, by the way. Y'all have given me so many.
Can I just mail them back to treestuff and you'll figure out where they came from?
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I love stickers bro but you gotta make something fresh.


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I've read through a couple of Instructables about recharging spray cans that still have contents

In both articles the authors found that the cans are pressurized to less than or around 100 psi. The cans are certified to hold close to 200 psi.

It would be way too easy to find out what the bursting point of the pipe in the APTA are rated to. Seems plenty good when faced with filling from a bike pump
 
bonner1040 said:
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I'm not desperate to make friends or impress anyone. Not trying to be a jerk or anything but I don't live and breathe based the Buzz's opinion of me.
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I don't think anyone is desperate to make friends, or impress but many on this forum look to your employer for supplies. Your reactions and words not only reflect on you, your personality but your employer. Maybe giving some who may be on the fence about the merger another reason to shop elsewhere.
 
I'm sorry guys but like I said, I wasn't impolite to anyone except the super hateful dude that called me out to begin with.

Did I miss something??


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bonner1040 said:
I'm sorry guys but like I said, I wasn't impolite to anyone except the super hateful dude that called me out to begin with.

Did I miss something??


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Wasn't I just answering questions about our products?




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SomethingWitty said:
Breathe. You're not under attack.
Just idle chatter.
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That's not how it reads. Try putting yourself in my shoes maybe. I stopped in to answer some questions and defend against some crazy guys accusations and suddenly I'm some jerk misrepresenting his employer?




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