Crossbow for line installation...

Just a quick heads-up. A buddie of mine was in his backyard having a few beers with a couple of friends. They started shooting a BB gun at the empties. They used the shed as a back stop with the woods behind that. Completely safe. A neighbor called with a noise complaint and then the local cops show up and decide to make an example of him and through what they could at him. One of the charges was discharging a firearm in a local community. This was quite a few years ago, and he had to be in his late 30's to early 40's.
Not like he was some young punk asking to be harassed by the cops.
 
ARLO said:
The other thing to always remember with a crossbow is that it is a dangerous weapon and once cocked should never be pointed anywhere that you don't want it to shoot. Even a blunt bolt can be lethal at close range.
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One other thing to always remember with crossbows is to never get fingers too high on the rail as to get into the string path, if you want to keep 'em.
 
96coal449 said:
Just a quick heads-up. A buddie of mine was in his backyard having a few beers with a couple of friends. They started shooting a BB gun at the empties. They used the shed as a back stop with the woods behind that. Completely safe. A neighbor called with a noise complaint and then the local cops show up and decide to make an example of him and through what they could at him. One of the charges was discharging a firearm in a local community. This was quite a few years ago, and he had to be in his late 30's to early 40's.
Not like he was some young punk asking to be harassed by the cops.
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So, I guess that neighbor wasn't invited to the big barbecue party he had the following week.
 
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A hunter told me that the bow arm could shatter if the arrow is to heavy. I googled it and couldn't find anything but still set up this contraption for test fireing the 3\8 in dia solid steel rod, the heaviest of all the arrows I've shared in the post. Forewarned is forearmed!!!
 
What happened? If you give it some thought, a bow limb moves forward more slowly when trying to launch a heavy arrow. A similar situation occurs every time you decock the bow with no damage to the limbs. Also hunters have been using really
heavy arrows on African big game for years and before that steal bolts were used to pierce armor.

Though I am not intimately familiar with compound technology I can guarantee that a
heavy arrow will not harm any other bow and there is no logic that slow energy release should cause damage. It is, however, a good excuse for voiding a warranty claim.
 
I think it might actually be opposite. Firing to light of a projectile can cause damage. Just like releasing the string without a bolt or arrow, can damage the limbs, or riser. Just my .02 ..... I belong to an archery forum. I could check into this if someone wants but, I like it better here!
 
A heavier bolt will keep the limbs from traveling as fast. That heavy bolt is going to use more stored limb energy. That's why a heavy bolt travels a shorter distance. It uses more energy to get to that distance. Does anyone still want me to go to the other forum?
 
96coal449 said:
@rawtree you have a preference on what type of fishing reel works best? I've been wanting to fit my APTA.
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Any medium to large size spinning reel will work but I prefer the larger salt water reels because they have larger spools and are built stronger. If you go to a well stocked sporting goods store like Cabelas you will find many models to choose from, ranging from the cheap ones that cost about $50 to heavy-duty ones that cost $80-120. Strength is important because when you hang up a bolt and have to pull hard to break the line it puts a lot of stress on the components. To avoid that I grab hold of the reel and hold onto it when backing away to break the line. I broke one reel when I did not hold onto it when I was pulling on the line. That put so much strain on the stem that it snapped in half between the reel body and the mount.
 
I live in an area were there are many trees over 200 feet . I have been using the APTA for a little over a year and I can say it is one of the best investments in gear I have ever made. I can hit spots 200 feet or more fairly easily. It does take practice to figure out what throw balls and throw lines work best for the trees in your area. It was a game changer tool for me!
 
My brief experience in climbing the sequoias led me to conclude that the big shot outperformed the crossbow. I think the APTA would do better as well.
 
ARLO said:
I think the only way to settle this would be a competition between skilled practitioners with each method. I think that would be fun, as well as a learning experience.
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my experience was with a skilled practitioner with the crossbow and rookies with the big shot. the big shot just ran into much less problems. I don't know how many bolts got hung up. throw bags seem just much more efficient. we used the same line for the big shot as we did for the cross bow. I believe it was spider wire.
 
RopeShield said:
Has the APTA been signed off by an engineer?
Hard to trust something like the APTA to not to explode when it is not certified, tested t destruction/cycles to failure etc. Scarey stuff.
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LOL, you kill me man. Why dont you tell me how I should throw a pointy steel weight up above my head for laughs, then spew some more hate everywhere you can about our products. You sound like a crazy person.

The APTA uses recognized NPT threading with scheduled aluminum and NPT fittings. Its what you call engineered.
 
TimBr said:
I always wondered about the "50 states legal" claim for the APTA. I wonder if it is possible for items to be "50 states legal", but also to not be legal in huge numbers of smaller communities because of more tightly restrictive local laws? It would seem funny to me that a local community could take away a right granted by the state it is within, but I'm not very savvy, as far as politics is concerned.

It's kind of like those places where kids grow up and can't get a drink legally, but if they cross a county line, they can.

Tim
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The APTA is not considered a firearm or a destructive device and is protected by specific language in the Title 5 code. It is legal in all 50 states.

Are you aware of local regulations barring dedicated pneumatic line setting devices?? I am not.
 
bonner1040 said:
The APTA is not considered a firearm or a destructive device and is protected by specific language in the Title 5 code. It is legal in all 50 states.

Are you aware of local regulations barring dedicated pneumatic line setting devices?? I am not.
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The old "Show me where it says I can't do this" statement. I use that all the time when rec climbing.
 
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