Cover Pic For Wespur Catalog

Phil

Phil

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So I just got the new Wespur Catalog and after looking through it 3 or 4 times i finally actually looked at the cover photo. I noticed that both the climber's lanyard and climbing line are below the sling for the block. It was my understanding that this configuration is frowned upon as unsafe for many reasons. On the first page of the catalog is an explanation of the photo, who it is, where, etc. If the removal was part of a demonstration on how to properly and safely rig down a tree I am a little confused. I am also wondering if anyone screens the pics for use or if they just decide to use the cool looking action shots. Or am I wrong here and being tied in below your rigging is now ok?

http://www.wesspur.com/order_catalog.html
 
Heck no, the man's bingo on the button proper mate!

Rigging changes when you're catching wood blocking down the spar.

jomoco
 
Right or Wrong ---

I personally try to have one below and one above to cover both areas of potential falling. For the one below sling I make sure it is above the block...to make sure it doesn't get burnt by lower line.

I like the one above incase the lower one does slips down and gets burnt in 2. One below is to back up the one above (if for some reason it would slip off the top)....or get cut with chainsaw.

Just my 2 cents worth
 
Greg Liu knows his stuff.

He has an adjustable friction saver around the tree, through which his lifeline is installed.

Personally, I have often placed one of my two tie-ins below the sling, but above the block. When doing that, I have never had it lock down on the lanyard.
 
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So I just got the new Wespur Catalog and after looking through it 3 or 4 times i finally actually looked at the cover photo. I noticed that both the climber's lanyard and climbing line are below the sling for the block. It was my understanding that this configuration is frowned upon as unsafe for many reasons.

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funny thats the first thing i noticed i believe mark wrote an article about this and he was sayin to tie in above ill trust mark.
 
Didn't some climber just get mangled by letting his lanyard slip off the top of a spar without a second TIP below?

jomoco
 
The better practice is to lanyard above the block.

However, it may not always be practical to lanyard in above the block.

But, if Roger says he knows his stuff, then no worries.
 
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Personally, I have often placed one of my two tie-ins below the sling, but above the block. When doing that, I have never had it lock down on the lanyard.

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Roger I have done the same thing many times before and never had any problems with my lanyard getting locked down.

This is one area that I do not agree with ArborMaster's teachings.
 
placing your tie ins above the sling results in a Zero chance of the sling pinch, the rigging line burning, or the block severing your lines. Placing one of your lines below the sling results in at least some chance of the sling pinching, the rigging line buring, or the block severing your line. I will always tie in above the block with something that cinches to the trucnk to prevent the flip over effect.

I know guys that refuse to wear chaps cus they say they have always cut without chaps and they have never hit their leg. Some people need to have a house fall on them before they know its going to hurt i guess.
 
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placing your tie ins above the sling results in a Zero chance of the sling pinch, the rigging line burning, or the block severing your lines. Placing one of your lines below the sling results in at least some chance of the sling pinching, the rigging line buring, or the block severing your line. I will always tie in above the block with something that cinches to the trucnk to prevent the flip over effect.

I know guys that refuse to wear chaps cus they say they have always cut without chaps and they have never hit their leg. Some people need to have a house fall on them before they know its going to hurt i guess.

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How much chance is there of getting flung off the top of the spar if a rope catches/fouls/snaps and you go for the ride of your life?

If you know how to place your lanyard and bodyline between the blockrope and the block hang point exactly as the Wesspur climber did such a good job of, it's the best method in my opinion.

Particularly catching wood on smaller long skinny stuff where the rides are exagerated.

jomoco
 
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Personally, I have often placed one of my two tie-ins below the sling, but above the block. When doing that, I have never had it lock down on the lanyard.

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Roger I have done the same thing many times before and never had any problems with my lanyard getting locked down.

This is one area that I do not agree with ArborMaster's teachings.

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I put my lanyard under the block once (years ago) and I was locked in place until the log was detached from the line. I was basically stuck there. Anyone ever had this happen?

If it were an emergency situation, to lower myself, I would have simply had to detach both clips of my lanyard and come down on my climb line.

But, still, it ain't worth splitting hairs about.
 
A few times Jammin, back before I learned to leave about 10 inches of neck on my block rope where it attaches to the pulley, this allows the block to jump your lanyards without trapping them in place, and with a ringed FS, even if both lines do become trapped, there is still a safe route to ground because the bodyline is still free.

I like the top edge of the spar at just about shoulder heighth when the ride starts, so I can straight arm it and triangulate, moving as one with the spar as it dances.

jomoco
 
Although I don't agree with you on the tieing in below the sling, what has me more aggravated is how one group of industry instructors teaches one way to do it, calling it safe and proper, while another group does the opposite and calls it safe and proper. If they are both safe and proper, why isn't that a common point of a rigging class coast to coast?
 
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He has an adjustable friction saver around the tree, through which his lifeline is installed.

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I have seen a few pictures of this, and I like the idea. The adjustable friction saver tightens around the spar similar to Mark's running bowline method.

-Tom
 
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