CMC lift failure

Steel often seems to break/tear in a straight line like that. It seems odd, but steel does actually have somewhat of a “grain” due at least in part to the manufacturing process. If I recall correctly, hot rolled/formed steel has more of a grain than cold rolled/formed, but I may have that backwards. I do know for certain though that cold rolled steel is stronger than hot rolled.

On the breakage note too, we had a trailer frame break last summer, but it broke at a stress point, where I would expect it to if it were going to. I fixed it myself and reinforced it so that it won’t happen again; I do a bit of fabrication so the repair was simple but I was annoyed that it needed to be done. Not as annoyed though as I am glad that we found the breaks before the trailer buckled going down the road!
I can see that on 3 sides, but seems strange to me that the 4th side (the one in compression) doesn't bend and tear differently. Regardless what seems strange to me, facts are facts, I guess that's just how they fail.
 
I can see that on 3 sides, but seems strange to me that the 4th side (the one in compression) doesn't bend and tear differently. Regardless what seems strange to me, facts are facts, I guess that's just how they fail.
It does seem odd to me, but I’m think that there is no side in compression on that lift - the cylinder is the “compression side” of the boom on that lift, so all four sides of the boom are actually in tension - not equally, the top is under more tension than the bottom, but all are in tension since the break is between the pivot pin and the cylinder attachment.
 
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I don’t think they will go out of business. There’s hundreds and hundreds of those lifts in operation in the us and maybe a few have had failures. I suspect the company will replace the boom on existing ones or maybe fishplate some steel.
Also, how they handle this will either reinforce or kill confidence in this company. It’s in their best interest to step up.
If I had one, I'd certainly be talking to a structural engineer about designing a reenforcement for that area.
 
Our CMC 83 has been in the shop for a month while they try and determine the best course for repair on cracks on both sides of the upper boom. A month and still no answer and then this happens to someone else! It’s insane.
Did you find those during "normal" inspection?
 
I don’t think they will go out of business. There’s hundreds and hundreds of those lifts in operation in the us and maybe a few have had failures. I suspect the company will replace the boom on existing ones or maybe fishplate some steel.
Also, how they handle this will either reinforce or kill confidence in this company. It’s in their best interest to step up
I don’t think they will go out of business. There’s hundreds and hundreds of those lifts in operation in the us and maybe a few have had failures. I suspect the company will replace the boom on existing ones or maybe fishplate some steel.
Also, how they handle this will either reinforce or kill confidence in this company. It’s in their best interest to step up.
Every lift they have ever sold will have a recall on it at the very least. Everyone that owns one will no about this issue. No one will ever buy one now because it’s happened multiple times. From the sounds of it it’ll happen again. I sure as shit wouldn’t go up in one and would never put an employee in one as well. They are totally f#ucked.
 
Time will tell but over 1000 units in the field in the U.S alone

Daily inspection just got more thoroughly

My heart goes out to everyone involved
 
I crawled all over mine last night and I am going to crawl all over it again this morning and every day here after. I have not seen any signs of cracking.
 
It is hard to find solid information about this all.

Here is a statement released from All Access Equipment.
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Machines are made by humans. Humans can make mistakes. All their testing and design and research is great, but it was done by humans...who are sometimes wrong, or at the very least not fully informed. This is why things like consumer watch advocates and product recalls exist. Going back to my post about the broken frame on our Morbark chipper...a few years prior we had the hydraulic tank fall off the machine while making a turn in a parking lot. Yes you read that right. The hydraulic tank fell off the machine. Morbark redesigned their brackets and even added a another one higher up. If you have a bobcat with a rear window and door that can be removed from the inside to allow for operator egress during an emergency (I'm pretty sure it's part of the forestry package along with ballistic glass on the door)...that's because someone where I work almost died when the machine caught fire and the arms were up blocking the door from opening. Luckily the hydro lines ended up failing and the arms came down under their own weight and the operator escaped physically uninjured. Bobcat then designed emergency escape options. Sometimes the consumer is still the beta tester. I'm not saying that's intentional, but that's the reality.
 
I’m wondering if it’s possible to have the booms scanned by x ray?

All Access stated that the failures were due to improper use but I wouldn’t expect them to say otherwise...
I did read the "pictures on social media" text in AA letter. If these pictures are of other machines, not the failed machine's, then what's the point? We have all read that one of these owners was meticulous and CTP, etc.

Seems CMC trying to cover some bases.
 
From the two pictures it looks like the boom failed when they were both in the horizontal position at full extension. Just a guess but the knuckle looks to be in the same position on both.
 
I did read the "pictures on social media" text in AA letter. If these pictures are of other machines, not the failed machine's, then what's the point? We have all read that one of these owners was meticulous and CTP, etc.

Seems CMC trying to cover some bases.
Sorry I wasn’t more clear. My point was to x ray the booms on the lifts that “have not” failed or cracked.
I’m sure that an x ray would be pointless after failure
 
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