Client, "Will you buy my trees for lumber?"

Re: Client, \"Will you buy my trees for lumber?\"

I can't take credit for making it, found it on another arborist forum - cracked me right up.

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You can just write the words and it animates characters and says your dialogue. Far as I know, it's free.
 
Re: Client, \"Will you buy my trees for lumber?\"

The removal cost $ 10 000.00 Plus the loss of the tangible and intangibles.
Insurable value of highly valuable tree is mb $ 20 000.00

Toal loss $ 30 000.00 it is amazing that here in Ontario most everyone does not value trees monetarily when they are standing and only until they have been cut down.

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Re: Client, \"Will you buy my trees for lumber?\"

As a owner of a tree company that also owns a sawmill, I have a slightly different perspective. Sometimes there is value added to a job by being able to process a sawlog into lumber. If the job is large enough sometimes we will sell the load of logs right off the job and pay 100% stumpage. We still get paid our rate for the tree work and the homeowner gets the value of their trees deducted from their bill. Some would just call it added profit, I would call it greedy. Or maybe I won the bid because I credited back the $2500 for the load of pine logs on the estimate. My customers appreciate honest and fair and I have had a lot of them for quite some time. The concern about metal in the logs is real, but if you can make lumber with a $22 sawblade the risk is not huge and the profits outweigh the risk overall. Bucking sawlogs into firewood is a waste of a resource. Obviously sometimes its the most cost effective choice, but being cost effective drives too much of what people do. I also have been offering a $200 Irene credit to my customers affected by the hurricane to offset the bad karma of other tree companies that price gouge after a storm. Still allows me to cover my overhead, but also help my good customers. Key word good...if your a slow bill payers you dont get the credit.
 
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Mark, that is excellent. You must have quite a large space to have a sawmill and store all that wood. I have definitely seen tree companies around me cart off logs to the mill. Whether they credit the customer or not I do not know. I have had arborist drop logs off at my place to be sawed up by my chainsaw mill.

A customer knowing they have valued wood in their trees should be able to call a lumber company to arrange for it to be used in a useful manner.

The cartoon was still funny. Come on a tricycle hanging out of it.
 
Re: Client, \"Will you buy my trees for lumber?\"

Great cartoon. My son in law's close friend owns a tree service on eastern Long Island and his name is Darin.
 
Re: Client, \"Will you buy my trees for lumber?\"

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...A customer knowing they have valued wood in their trees should be able to call a lumber company to arrange for it to be used in a useful manner...

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My thought on the matter revolves around this line. If a customer believes they have lumber of value then let the CUSTOMER contact the lumber mill, make arrangements for transportation of the logs, etc. Then when they bring out the arborists they tell them the bid is to remove the canopy and cut the trunk into specific pieces that are left on site. Then the client deals with following through with everything and the client keeps the money they rightfully earned with their contacts and their own time and energy.

But to think a tree company should PAY the client if the tree company is doing all the work??? That just sounds goofy. If you bought the truck, the loader, rented the crane, trained the staff, made the connections with the mill OR bought the mill, why should the client be paid?

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The other side for a tree company is taking down trees that might have decay in them, and not having even good firewood value, adding to the expenses of the job. The customer isn't likely to pay the additional disposal expense.
 
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But to think a tree company should PAY the client if the tree company is doing all the work??? That just sounds goofy. If you bought the truck, the loader, rented the crane, trained the staff, made the connections with the mill OR bought the mill, why should the client be paid?

That's correct Nick. We are doing all the work and get paid to do it. We bought the .5M$ worth of equipment and trained the crew. We billed the machine hours and the labor and generated chips and logs. If its one or two logs the trucking will eliminate any value of the logs (most of the time)If it's 30Tons of chips why not sell them to Burlington Electric and get $300 instead of blowing them over the bank. If there is a load of logs, just handle them once, put them on the truck and go to the mill.

We all laughed so hard at the lady with the highly valuable black walnut tree because she represents a large percentage of the dumb arse American public. I will not do a job for the wood...to many variables. I'll do a job for my rates and if the value of the wood helps offset the bill, good for everyone. It works for me.

Having the necessary machines to cut a tree, chip the brush, grind the stump, mill the lumber, dry and plane the lumber adds a lot of billable man hrs to every job. It's a necessary evil of running a tree service...what we really enjoy is planting and taking care of trees
 
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there is a guy here, been running an ad in kijiji, a free classified place, stating he has a large "Fir" tree to come down, person must be competent at such tree since this is over a house.

you are welcome to the wood as payment...;)

we have no fir trees here, I'm guessing it is probably a nasty old wolf-white pine :) I get a lot of people calling me asking if I'll take the wood form the tree as payment ..lol
 
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Here in Oregon we do a bit of urban logging. I've done many jobs where as part of the job, my boss goes and gets a logging permit, lines up a log hauler, and then when the job is finished the client gets the check from the mill. We also have huge black walnuts here and there are a few lumber companies here that actually seek out big black walnuts to remove and then hire tree services to remove them and pay the homeowner for the tree. I did one in the spring where the company paid the homeowner $900 for a street tree in Portland. It didn't cover the cost of the removal but it certainly helped.
 
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depends on your market. funny the day after i first read this thread....i got a call from a lady who was pretty insistent on the fact that i should do the job for the wood....ugghhgh
 
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I had a property manager ask our company for a quote to remove a red oak. He also wanted to know if we can sell the tree for lumber to offset the cost of removal. I just laughed. Mills in our area will not accept city trees due to potential metal. Now if it was a pawlonia, different story.
 
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2 weeks ago I removed a 60+ foot Butternut.Juglans cinerea.

after talking with the local hardwood mill and pricing the cost of a crane and then bringing the wood to the mill and the risk of the wood not being what we would all hope it would be I cut it up for firewood , excewpt for a few pieces that I will hack around with and make something in the future on my own..3 months ago I did have some hemlock milled into 4 x 4 's for use on my property and did save about 150 doolars..sustainable agriculture...
 
Re: Client, \"Will...lumber?\" Sawmill for sale

Just in case any arbos want to get into the milling biz, take a look at this ad!
 

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Re: Client, \"Will...lumber?\" Sawmill for sale

A local church was expanding it's parking and had some 20" Southern yellow pines down in logs for take away, so dad and I went and got them with my 14' bed dump and tractor we used to have, rigged with an army surplus manual 20 ton winch at the front, and an A frame rig mounted on the two arms of the three point hitch. We loaded/unloaded the tractor by winching it up into the upraised bed next to a ditch bank. The local lumber mill was run by a power take-off drum on a tractor and looong leather belt to the saw spindle. He would manuever his tractor into position, put the belt on, and tension it by backing up till tight. We helped him to cut, load, and take away the slabs. It was alot of work, but he only charged us 50 bucks! Of course then we had to have it planed and shiplapped. So all you need is a sawmill, chainsaw, winch, hoist, dumptruck, tractor, and commercial planer, and you could make some big bucks.
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We ended up with enough boards to finish the cathedral ceiling in the log cabin dad and I built from scratch.

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Re: Client, \"Will you buy my trees for lumber?\"

you may know this already but just incase you do not . put a metal detector against the tree everywhere you can it will let you know if there is metal .
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