chippers

marlin, I had a run a model 90 disk for 3 year before starting to demo new chippers last summer. The only disc I demoed was a 250. I was very happy with it compared to the 90 as it was a big step up. The sales rep suggest we check out the 990 which I liked more then then 250. Next we demoed the 1390, I was totally sold on the 1390, I thought it was a bad chipper and would have no reason for anything bigger. We had a land clearing job coming up and the sales rep suggested giving the 1590 or 1890 a try. The 1590 had same engine/drum as the 1390 but wider feed wheels. When the rep picked it up we talked about the few extra inches of width making a big difference. They just came out with a new option to increase the feed wheel width to 25". A few weeks later we had a new 1590 with 25" feed wheels and never looked back. I would definitely go drum. If you do mostly pruning and small removals with an occasional big removal I would go 990. If you are into large removals, crane removals or chipping with a mini I would go 1590 with extra wide feed wheels. I'll see if I have any video for you and upload it tonight.
 
We got quoted 41K for a 250 with 142 hp engine and 44K for a 1390 with a 99hp. HP makes all the difference they say.

We currently run a 200 and its definitely not up to snuff.
 
Yes hp makes all the difference, but i believe you need less hp with a self feeding drum style over a disk. Also the engine is square to the unit so you dont have that tight backing to one side , like you do on the disks. Even more important than the hp is the maintenance, keep the knives sharp.
 
The Bandit guy told me the 1390hd run really well with about 100 horse. Enough power to chip the big stuff, yet "good" on fuel. I've seen a lot of large drum chippers fitted with low HP. I think their design allows so.

Its awesome to have a monster chipper, but the weights increase significantly from the 250 to the 1590. From what I've read, the 1390HD weighs about the same as a 250. I'm saving for one of those!

Can we see that puppy chip some wood, arbor man? Nothing fancy about that brush going through. Are you towing that with a 350? Looks maybe like a 350 at first, then switched to a 550?
 
Before I had my 1090 I was renting 250XP's. When I ran the 250XP with 140 HP cat, I could throw a log into that thing, and watch the chips ricochet off an old storage container 40' away and then still go flying. My 1090 would hardly be able to reach that same distance. I just ran a 990 the other day after my machine went down... it was very disappointing.

I'm looking to upgrade to a 1590 this summer if things work out alright. Don't want it for chipping hardwood, just for those stupid overgrown ornamentals, plus the pine and hemlock.
 
No, they don't make the 1090 anymore. Where have you been looking at Bandits?

Also, it seems as though there are 2 different 1590's. The one resembles the machine shown in arborman's machine, and the other is just a big that makes me think more of an 1890 or equivalent.
 
I think the new 1590 is a straight up 17" machine.

The 1390 comes in two versions. The HD model takes the spot of the 1590 making it a 15" machine.

I'm torn on what machine would be the best. I basically just want to get rid of big softwood, and occasional big hard wood when launching chips into the woods. Looking for a winch this time around too.

I talked to Tyler so far, Matt. Any suggestions?

I would prefer to buy out of state and save tax as I'd probably register it in Maine for $90 for 5 years, LOL. I think the dealers would be less than happy to do service on it if that was the case.
 
1590 with feed wheel upgrade is a 19" chipper like mine in the video. The first truck in the video is a 550 the second truck near the end is a 450.

Trust me Brendon don't even think about 1390 just go right for 1590, 140hp engine keeps the frame small and extra wide feed wheels.
 
This year I tried a 255 bandit it's a 15 inch disc .We chip a lot of hard wood and use it to its max capacity and it has done a real good job,last year I tried a 1590 and didn't like it as much for the reason it didn't throw chips as far
 
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will you be chipping thicker material? or mostly brush?

the 250, or any disk, will handle brush better, the 1390, or any drum, will handle larger wood better.

-steve

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You have it backwards. Disk chippers handle big wood better. Has to do with the angle the knives are contacting to wood. A disk is always hitting the wood straight down. Where as a drum chips brush better because the drum pulls the brush in as it chips. But when it comes to chipping wood , you need a drum twice as tall as the diameter of the wood you are chipping to maintain optimum knife angle
 
Dave- i think you meant to saw drum chippers chip wood better. Did you guys demo any of the bandit grapple chippers vs. the wooodsman? We are potentially looking at a bandit grapple chipper in the near future.
 
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Dave- i think you meant to saw drum chippers chip wood better. Did you guys demo any of the bandit grapple chippers vs. the wooodsman? We are potentially looking at a bandit grapple chipper in the near future.

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Disks are better for wood. It is something manufactures have been improving since drums were introduced . With a drum the knife hits the would a varied angles throughout its cutting pass. If you are chipping large diameter wood (over 50% of the height of the drum) at the top of its cut the knife is entering the wood more like a planner then at a cutting angle . This angle is very tough on the knife and the machine. Makes for large inconsistent chip chunks. Then at the bottom of the cut the knife is actually pulling the wood in, usually with enough force to pull the wood through the feed wheels , even if they are in reverse, which can cause stalling .
That same pulling effect is what makes drums more aggressive on the brush .
With A disk you always have the ideal angle of chipping on the wood but you do not get any pulling advantage on the brush .

Bandits grapple chippers....the chipper part is OK but the grapple design is awful. We won't even consider one until they start from scratch and completely redesign it.
 
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