CDL - needed or not??

MikePowers321 said:
Thanks friend. I wonder what would happen if you asked this same question to the DOT, because 2 different people that are DOT inspectors told me two different answers.
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Its crazy how many people that are suppose to be enforcing the laws who don't what the actual laws are.
 
Jeff said:
Rather than getting yourself arrested, have you considered having it shipped, or having a CDL driver move it for you?
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I hadn't thought of that earlier, but it was later brought to my attention. Thanks, Jeff. Much better idea than driving it cross country for an older truck like that. But I'm 50/50 on the purchase anyhow. Winters are tough around here.
 
Jeff said:
Rather than getting yourself arrested, have you considered having it shipped, or having a CDL driver move it for you?
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Heck, ask on here. "Hey, anyone with a cdl heading from CO to NY areas want to move a truck for me?" I've known a number of people that have moved trucks before. If I had any travel plans to the western US, which unfortunately I don't at the moment, I'd gladly bring it back.
 
MikePowers321 said:
Thanks to all for your replies...

This is what I'm gathering thus far and correct me if I'm wrong....the enforcement of these laws by the DOT vary from state to state, and in Ny, it might be to my advantage to get my CDL no matter what or I'm asking for trouble? But in other states, it is not an issue as long as your under 26K (Colorado, Wisconsin)

However, I just want to get this truck home before winter hits at minimum. Think I can make it cross country unloaded with no problems and get the CDL afterwards?
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CDL classes of licenses do not vary from state to state its federally regulated. If you have a straight truck OVER 26,000 GVW you need a CDL B. If you drive a combination vehicle (truck n trailer) where the GVW of both vehicles equals MORE than 26,000 with the trailers GVW of MORE than 10,000 you will need a class A CDL. If the vehicle is not GVW more than 26,000 and it has air brakes you DO NOT NEED a CDL. You will also need a medical certificate if the GVW is 10K or more unless you have a waiver of some sort. You will however most likely be overweight with a grapple truck of the weight you specified earlier and that's big tickets!
 
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F1900? Not S1900? I might be wrong(going off old memories, buddy's dad sold and serviced Internationals until he retired in the late 90's) but I was under the impression that the F denotes it started life as a tandem axle truck. If it were an s1900, they still came from the mfg as a class 7; 9 k fronts and 18k rears. F1900 specs at 9k fronts and 34k tandem rear, but your pic is obviously lacking another set of axles. Modded truck possibly? I'd definitely take a look at what the door sticker actually says. Chassis weight should be around 14k, then another 5-6k lbs for the log grapple. If that box is heavier than it looks, I could see the 22k weight figure being the actual scale weight. So 4,000 to 7,000 lb capacity before you need a CDL. Even if you push numbers to the low side, say 12k for the chassis and 5k for the grapple, that only gets you 9,000 lbs for payload.

Personally, if there's no issue obtaining a CDL, I would definitely suggest looking into a class 8 truck rather than something you're going to push the limits of.
 
Keep this in mind.
When you have a commercial driver's license you are under more strict enforcement even when not driving a CDL vehicle.
For instance, in my state the legal drinking limit is .08, with the CDL you are at .04. That is still enforced even if you're driving your dad's minivan.

And now you can't even transport unopened alcohol in a commercial vehicle or you will be fined.

Be careful, the man is watching you.
 
irish93stang said:
CDL classes of licenses do not vary from state to state its federally regulated. If you have a straight truck OVER 26,000 GVW you need a CDL B. If you drive a combination vehicle (truck n trailer) where the GVW of both vehicles equals MORE than 26,000 with the trailers GVW of MORE than 26,000 you will need a class A CDL. If the vehicle is not GVW more than 26,000 and it has air brakes you DO NOT NEED a CDL. You will also need a medical certificate if the GVW is 10K or more unless you have a waiver of some sort. You will however most likely be overweight with a grapple truck of the weight you specified earlier and that's big tickets!
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No, if the trailer is over 10,000 and the combined gross is over 26,000 a class A is required.
 
MikePowers321 said:
Haha. Denver to Ny is a long trip to take back roads. The point of this is to try my best to be in compliance. I just can't tell if I would be or not. So let me get this straight....Every state I cross, I am bound to a different set of rules?
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There might be different laws. But the classifications for licenses are the same. Like window tint laws in one state versus another. The truck will either be a CDL truck or it won't, that will not vary from state to state. If you have a class B you will be able to drive that truck in the pics from state to state
tc262 said:
No, if the trailer is over 10,000 and the combined gross is over 26,000 a class A is required.
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meant 10,000 wrote that when I was waking up... trailer is over 10k not 26 sorryyyyy!
 
Massachusetts State Police say the air brake endorsement only applies when it is a CDL class vehicle 26.001+ GVW. You can't get the endorsement for a regular drivers license. That's what I got from multiple truck team troopers.
 
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