carrying a ropeguide

[poetmk]

you have to set a throwline in it (big ring) prior to descending - i think that would work - but it means you need to know it's your last tie-in before you head down...

peace,

matthew

 

[Murph]

Hey Jeff, don't try using a throwline for extraction as you would if you were using a friction saver, it doesn't work. It'll just end up getting all jammed up. If using a throwline you either need to use the "snapper" from ART or pre attach it and throw the line out of the tree when you tie in. If you've got the time Gus, Candace and I are climbing this weekend. I could show you in person some of the other methods I use.

 

[jeff_r]

I just spoke to Gus and he explained the method with throwline, but no mention of climbing on the weekend. You better remind him. . . Throwline method makes sense - attach the throwline once ropeguide is set and drop it on the other side of the tree to use once you've descended. I get it. Too late for my poor ropeguide though. . . Call me for a climb!

 

[NickfromWI]

The rope on mine is only about 6', I like to keep it short, and can add an extender if need be. I just scoot the adjuster down about a foot from the splice, then zig-zag the tail around the adjuster and the red webbing stiff strap thingy. The tail then goes into the big ring, and I use the snap-shackle hanging on the end to hang it off my saddle. Works nice for me.

Maybe I could post a pic of that?

love
nick

 

[Rupe]

Jeff. The method you describe works well and comp climbers use it in the MC all the time with no worries. However, in a work situation, haveing a throwline hanging out of the tree can be a real PITA, getting in a right tangle. Also if you have to change your TIP at any time = more tangle.

Method 1. Descend tree as usual. THEN set a throwline in the tree. Must be more than half the height from ground to TIP, and MUST come down the same route as your climbing lines, but any old branch will do. Clip the end of throwline (the end that has come down same route as climbing lines) to the friction hitch side of climbing line above FH. Pull throwline up to it highest point. The krab will ascend the climbing line to this point. Remove climbing line and ropeguide as normal. Climbing line with ball attached, goes up, retrieves rope guide and it only drops as far as the throwline (thats why throwline must be at least half way up) Lower the RG the rest of the way down with throwline.

Method 2. If you've used an access line to ascend and this is still in the tree, descend the tree via same route as access line. Doesnt have to be the same route right from the top but you must join that route at least half way up for same reasons as before. When you join the route taken by the access line tie a butterfly knot in one part of it and clip the knot onto climbing line above friction hitch. Continue to descend. Remove climbing line. This time the rope guide drops onto the access line and can then be lowered the rest of the way.

 

[jeff_r]

Thanks Rupe!

 

[Gareth]

OUCH ! Careful there buddy !