Bond Treeclimbing Stunt.

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We need to find the most explosive/fastest techniques used in treeclimbing....

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Steve your help is I'm appreciated I'm sure, but know your limits!!!!!!

How's things??
 
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For tree to tree movement... speed lines or a variation thereof. Think Bond riding a heavy piece down the speedline and crushing an assassin.

A springpole should figure in somewhere too as a humorous way to dispatch a bad guy.

Then of course... you have Silky saws with which to do all sorts of wicked, bloody stuff with... and naturally the chain saw dual... Bond would use a Stihl; bad guys have Poulans.

Tom D... this may be a potential showcase for the Unicender.

Wait a minute! Bond could shoot some hapless villan with a big shot... and a hand grenade.

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Some great ideas there

What is a springpole? Can it be deadly?

I presume 'Silky' is a type of chainsaw? do you have photos?

Product placement could be tied in to the sequence, we would approach equipment suppliers for use of their products. Although your sector is very small the equipment suppliers would benefit from global coverage. They could possibly advertise their product being in the Bond film. We would need you to tell us what the best products/tools are.

'Chainsaw dual' without a doubt that's what we're talking about, is there a specific type of chainsaw that would be appropriate for a hand to hand fighting scene?

'Unicender'? Is it motorised?, is there a motorised device which treeclimber's use?

"Bond could shoot some hapless villain with a big shot and a hand grenade."

This is the creative thinking we are looking for! I presume a big shot is a type of tube that could be adapted like a mortar bomb?

Would you ever have large pieces of the tree hanging from mobile cranes? Near large city buildings? Which would allow for sequence movement onto a building?

Andrew Cleave
 
(think the snow plough sequence in 'On Her Majesty's Secret Service'

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And George Laznby says..."he had a lot of guts..."

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What ever is decided I think that all of us would like to see James follow the standards of the trade. No free climbing, PPE but let the baddies get smacked because they won't follow the rules.

This is an incredible opportunity for arborculture to have a good spotlight shown on it. It would be too bad if the public sees nothing more than wild action if they are lead to believe that it is arborcultural work not just homeowner work.
 
I will be meeting the rest of our group later today to discuss possible, 'treeclimbing' action sequences.

We will come up with a 'model' action set piece, using some of your ideas.

I will then post the sequence and you can give feedback and you can add more 'specialist' ideas/thoughts to the sequence.

'Footlocking sounds interesting, where can we see footage of this?

Andrew Cleave.
 
Will JB be shown as an arborist or as someone who drifts through an arborcultural action scene? This would be a baseline for how he's portrayed. We all would love to see him as an arbo properly kitted out with the latest tools of the trade...the super fast power ascender from MIT...the Unicender...flashy bright ropes...
 
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My thinking cap is on...

What ever is decided I think that all of us would like to see James follow the standards of the trade. No free climbing, PPE but let the baddies get smacked because they won't follow the rules.

This is an incredible opportunity for arborculture to have a good spotlight shown on it. It would be too bad if the public sees nothing more than wild action if they are lead to believe that it is arborcultural work not just homeowner work.

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Bond doesn't play by the rules when driving or flying a plane. If he went by ANSI Z133 he would be as boring as us arborist! Not a realistic limitation for a Bond film IMO.

Of course the bad guy could shoot in half Bonds main climbing rope.......only to discover Bond had a second tie it!
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Bond could lure the onto a large branch during a crane removal , tie into to tree worker's retrievable tie-in point above the ball, speed down to the ground just before the limb is cut, pull out the TIP, jump in the crane operator chair, and hoist the villain way out away from the tree while the villain is clinging to the large scaffold branch just cut.
 
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We need to find the most explosive/fastest techniques used in treeclimbing....

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Steve your help is I'm appreciated I'm sure, but know your limits!!!!!!

How's things??

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damm you, now i cant think of a good retort to that one
im good thanks mate, hope you're well, will you be at capel?

Andrew, there was a link posted somewhere a few weeks back of a motorised ascender, i forget the speed but it was pretty damm quick, im sure someone will remember where it was and post a link
 
Am I the only one that sees how lame this is? remember the construction scene in 'world is not enough' with the helicopter cutter and the Harvester? it just looked $HIT. The parkour sequence was realistic - bad guy runs away, bond chases. Treetop chase with arb equipment? get real.

Andrew, Us true Bond fans have had years of crap movies with stupid contrived chases and to many explosions. Casino Royale broke the mold with a return to the Bond of the books. try not to ruin it again with half baked ideas like this.

The best scenes with Bond and trees was in the collection of short stories 'For your eyes only'. In this book, Bond spends 8 hours up a large oak tree keeping a Russian spy nest under surveilance. and in the scene where bond is sent to gun down von hammerstein, the shoot out occurs around the base of a large maple.

I'm sure this will fall on deaf ears however.
My contribution would be that if you want a true treetop chase, use the boardwalk at the Lamington National Park, Brisbane, Australia.
 
Yeah, I just cant imagine Bond putting on a helmet and safety glasses. Or even using a Prussic line when footlocking up the rope. Its james Bond we are talking about here, safety isnt his biggest concern.

The only thing I can see is maybe on a chase scene coming across a group of tree workers in the trees. Bond escapes from his pursuirs with a 15 second footlock up an access line left in a tree by an arborist (these arborists would be in full PPE.

Bond politely borrows the arborists equipment such as a chainsaw. Bond has his own harness that I believe folds up into his belt buckle. A clip where he ties his friction hitch and his knots super fast would be cool. He is able to make a real crazy swing into another tree to escape his pursuer who has also footlocked up into the tree. Prior to the swing, the handsaw battle erupts. They fiercly try to cut eachothers lines. The poor tree worker is thrown to his death by the bad guy.

Maybe there are several bad guys that we should knock off in various ways. Cutting lines. Cutting the limbs that they are standing on.

The tree that bond swings into is in the last procees of being cut at the base. Nothing but hinge wood. The workers on the ground run from the scene. The bad guy also somehow makes the swing. The tree is literally tottering. Bond makes a hell burning decent out of the tree by jumping on the tag line which is rigged up to a winch. the weight of bond on the tag line tips the balance, and the tree starts going.

The bad guy is crushed by the tree and bond makes it out by the skin of his teeth and runs on without looking back.

I like the big shot for the grenade launcher. Although there would have to be background info for the audience to know what it would be. This could be done by have a brief montage of the professional arborists setting up the work day. This would involve using th big shot to set lines, gassing up the saws, etc.

It would be cool to see bond somehow be an ace throw ball artist too though. That could be incorporated anywhere in the movie though. He could be in a jam somewhere and use a throwball he keeps in a compartment in shoe to set a line on a bridge or something.

A pole saw would be a cool weapon.

what fun. Can I be an extra?
 
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What is a springpole? Can it be deadly?

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A springpole is just a bent sapling or tree with it's tip held down by another downed tree. With a wood like ash or hickory, a lot of energy can be stored in the form of unrelieved stress. Cut the tip and WHAP... it springs back to upright... they can cause serious injury, probably death depending on the size and where it strikes.

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I presume 'Silky' is a type of chainsaw? do you have photos?

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Silky is a brand of handsaw carried by most professional arbos. Razor toothed with a heavy steel blade... amazingly dangerous... not all that spectacular visually... but truly wicked none-the-less Silky website Check out the Sugoi and the polesaws.

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'Chainsaw dual' without a doubt that's what we're talking about, is there a specific type of chainsaw that would be appropriate for a hand to hand fighting scene?

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I'm not really much of a chainsaw afficionado but most arbs use a Stihl MS200T in the tree... it's a small top handled saw, short bar... not a spectacular dualing weapon... and Grover will be pissed if you portray someone using it with only one hand... but Riggs will gladly play the bad guy using a saw one handed.
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On the ground there are some pretty big saws for felling and stump cutting.

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'Unicender'? Is it motorised?, is there a motorised device which treeclimber's use?

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I totally forgot about the Atlas motorized ascender... it's perfect. The Unicender is a recently developed rope device for use on a single rope... it looks pretty cool, very high tech.


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"Bond could shoot some hapless villain with a big shot and a hand grenade."

This is the creative thinking we are looking for! I presume a big shot is a type of tube that could be adapted like a mortar bomb?

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A bigshot is a giant slingshot, sort of like a big wrist rocket on an 8' pole. It's used to launch a shotbag accurately into a tree for setting a rope.Link

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Would you ever have large pieces of the tree hanging from mobile cranes? Near large city buildings? Which would allow for sequence movement onto a building?

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Very definitely, near city buildings is a likely scenario for cranes picking large pieces, but they wouldn't normally be a log, they would be whole branch structures.

Another thing, with all the rope that would be around you have potential for some interesting BONDage.
 
Sorr lads i'm with Ed on this one. Bond doning tree gear and slowly moving around a tree aint gonna work. I've not seen casino royal, but from the trailers jumping between tower cranes is a bit more exciting than body thrusting up a stem, or making sure both hands are on a chainsaw.

If there was work happening climbing up a rope then swinging on a crane over a building could be interesting but watching him spend 5 mins getting kitted up doesnt make for thrilling watching.

As for showing teh arb industry in good light, get real. he aint gonna burst into a 3 minute lecture on good pruning technique its an action film for entertainment and last time i checked lectures didnt make box office smashes.

I liked the fight scene in the Bourne identity (or was it the supremecy) when Bourne uses a newspaper as a wepon.


I cant see 'professional' tree climbing in the safe manner we use day to day making for exciting viewing. certain safety aspects would have to be altered somewhat. It needs to be fast, explosive (in more than one sense) and excitng. i await being proved wrong however.

change it, use some of our techniques but it has to make people go wow.

Jamie
 
Hmmm...seems like there may be more to this thread than we're seeing.

This evening I recieved an email from a Treebuzz poster who wrote to Tom Delmar about Andrew Cleave. This is the end of the discussion unless I find out that this is legit.

Here's the email:

Thank you for contacting me. I have never heard of Andrew Cleave and he has never worked for myself or my stunt team. I would be grateful if you could point me to the forum on which this posting was made as I would like to have it removed ASAP.

Thank you for your time & please feel free to contact me.

Tom


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