Bolt and Cabling Question

"there doesn't seem to be any decay to weaken the trunk more."

And that is based on what, vta only?
sorry to be skeptical but are you sure?

Bad girdling root on the sidewalk side, needs pruning. Crown also needs pruning--I'd get some of that sprawl out with a polesaw today. You both see the split getting worse = you both see the tree falling apart before your eyes.

"Neighbor is a bit pressed for the resources to cover the costs of the hardware"

Bullspit.
With that level of hazard,this is no time to cry poor.
 
i looked hard and good with my eyes - did a little digging/probing - there is some root girdling but there isn't a whole lot of decay - at least not more than "normal" for a tree having so many environmental and physical attacks.

"You both see the split getting worse = you both see the tree falling apart before your eyes."

true - but I can't make them move faster than they want to...

what about cabling through the wires - any thoughts on that?


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mk
 
From the looks of it, I'd cable and bolt it if they asked me to.

Are they even electric lines?

Interesting question about steel cabling used over electric lines. What if some day something drastic happened and pulled a lag out (like a limb falling or another tree falling), then the cable would maybe hang down and contact the electric line.

I don't place too much trust in the Cobra for a failure that has already started. Maybe I'll change my mind some day.

So, how about this solution? Slide a garden hose over your cable before you put your dead ends on it. That way if it contacts an electric line, there would be less chance of it getting energized. Never tried it, just popped into my head.

But yeah, I'd cable and bolt it, even if it is a junky Norway Maple (at least it looks like a Norway from the pics).
 
oh, and it looks like one of your leaders on the left side of the split, is actually on the right side of the lines, so if that could have ONE of the cables, it wouldn't even be over the lines.
 
I would not put the system through any lines. If in fact they are secondary lines and telephone, they both carry potentially fatal voltage in them. I doubt that an system has a certification of being used around power lines. What is the voltage of the lines? If you did install the system through the lines and through the natural sway of the tree, it could rub through the lines causing an interruption of service to either one.

With all things being considered. I would look more toward the removal aspect of this situation. Placement of the tree is not optimum in the first place. Decay is present. Structure of the tree has been decreased. If/when the tree fails it has a potential "target". It just has to many thing against it to try and salvage it IMO.
 
Who's jurisdiction is the tree in? Does the municipality consider boulevard trees as city property? This would be important to settle before anything is done to the tree.

Let's say that the tree belongs to the resident. The conclusion seems to be that the tree is likely to fail in it's current condition.

What course of action to take?

You could look at this as a living laboratory to experiment on. Many times I had clients with trees that were dieing or in terrible condition. My solution was to setup a program of stabilizing and amputating to death.

This would be a good case study for doing some severe crown reduction to reduce the load on the failed trunk. Force the tree to restablish an inner, lower crown which will lower the center of gravity. With less canopy to support the tree and roots can direct energy where you leave them limbs.

Add in a cable/bolt system too. See how the tree survives.

As I said earlier, I would stay away from doing trunk rods in this case.
 
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Your suggested cure is worse than the problem!
 
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Maybe if they posted the pictures of Paris and Jenna they would get a little further around here!


People probably get paid to cruise around the net and post these silly links on random forums. Would that be a better job than climbing trees?
 
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um. no.


But I understand your question was rhetorical. If rhetorical means what I think it means.

My answer is: No. It would not be better to sit at a computer accumulating pimples on my rear end and inviting proper respectable arborists to come and watch the grease fire that is Paris Hilton's personal and public life, as well as some grainy videos of this princess being naughty. It would not be better than climbing a tree, even a Honey Locust.

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The large size of that canopy is providing a lot of benefits NOW. If you remove and replant, you'll have to wait around decades for a canopy half that size to provide shade, water absorption, air cleaning benefits that the already established tree is providing.

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That's one thought.

But if the tree's failure is innevitable, say even 10 years from now, then the "gap in history" you refer to, where the shade will be gone, will still occur in the course of history. There can still be a 20 year gap in the events of time.

Maybe I missed an attachment, but it would be interesting to see more of the base. One of the first images seemed to show missing bark at the base where the flare is.

Related to how concrete wound-fill is not flexible like a trunk, could several stiff bolts in that particular trunk cause similar problems, or would it be fine if bracing is added up in the canopy as well?
 
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