- Location
- Iowa
How can I get birds to leave a tree. I have a customer that has a Norway Maple and it gets 50-70 birds every night. She has tried fake snakes and owls and it doesn't work. She wants to remove the tree, is there a way to save it?
Birds in Tree
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What sort of birds are they? Red-winged Blackbirds, European Starlings, Grackles etc? Find out the species first then begin the search for an answer by looking at general references such as the individual species account in the Birds of North America.
Are the birds in the tree every night year round or just between breeding and fall migration?
Depending on the location a propane banger may do the job, hanging deterents maybe, or a trained monkey may be just the ticket.
Are the birds in the tree every night year round or just between breeding and fall migration?
Depending on the location a propane banger may do the job, hanging deterents maybe, or a trained monkey may be just the ticket.
- Location
- Grand Marais, MN
Fish swimming in the water, mammals walking around in the forest. Man it's getting terrible out there, we gotta stop this somehow.
- Location
- Bloomington, Indiana
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Strategically hung CD's scare birds away. The light reflection and movement ain't their bag of tea.
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Yup.
Strategically hung CD's scare birds away. The light reflection and movement ain't their bag of tea.
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Yup.
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- In the Mitten...
We had this happen in Southfield, MI about 7-9 years ago. They were black birds, 100-160 birds, the residents wanted all the street trees cut down on that street.(didn't happen) The birds were there for 3-4 months, only showed up at night, made alot of noise & pooped everwhere. They don't stay in one spot for too long, and will move on. They have never returned to this area. Not sure if they were just breeding or if the area had a high insect population.
Good luck with yours.
Good luck with yours.
- Location
- Grand Marais, MN
It just happens on occassion, often more so with 'problem' birds that we're pretty much responsible for anyway.
Population "burps" in scavenger species and parasites is one element of the larger picture that's more ugly and ominous than we'd like things to be, but is a price we're charged for some of the ways we are.
I'm currently waging a war on insects outside the home here - spikes of undesirable venomous ones by the kazillions. It's weather related but it's better than the wildfires people are fighting elsewhere. Changes, gotta accept them.
Kind of reminds me of a 95-year old fellow who keeps going to the docs to 'cure' whatever it is that ails him and the docs of course, write more 'scripts to prolong the INEVITABLE.
Population "burps" in scavenger species and parasites is one element of the larger picture that's more ugly and ominous than we'd like things to be, but is a price we're charged for some of the ways we are.
I'm currently waging a war on insects outside the home here - spikes of undesirable venomous ones by the kazillions. It's weather related but it's better than the wildfires people are fighting elsewhere. Changes, gotta accept them.
Kind of reminds me of a 95-year old fellow who keeps going to the docs to 'cure' whatever it is that ails him and the docs of course, write more 'scripts to prolong the INEVITABLE.
guymayor
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- East US, Earth
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a 95-year old fellow who keeps going to the docs to 'cure' whatever it is that ails him and the docs of course, write more 'scripts to prolong the INEVITABLE.
[/ QUOTE ]Hey I want to prolong my inevitable death as long as i can, don't you?
The cd's seem like one good idea, and patience a better idea. If your clients heard about others' experience that it is temporary and harmless, maybe they will just wash of the spit and get over it.
And...if they cut the trees down, the birds may just swarm on their houses, and land in their hair, and carry off their children and other pets!
a 95-year old fellow who keeps going to the docs to 'cure' whatever it is that ails him and the docs of course, write more 'scripts to prolong the INEVITABLE.
[/ QUOTE ]Hey I want to prolong my inevitable death as long as i can, don't you?
The cd's seem like one good idea, and patience a better idea. If your clients heard about others' experience that it is temporary and harmless, maybe they will just wash of the spit and get over it.
And...if they cut the trees down, the birds may just swarm on their houses, and land in their hair, and carry off their children and other pets!
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- Grand Marais, MN
Yes, prolonging life isn't too bad - you and I both know that.
But I'm thinking about my dad - he's 95 and in terrible pain. He says being old and hurting like he does isn't for sissies, nor would he have taken as good a care of himself in the early years. They won't prescribe pain meds, but don't bat an eye to perform needless surgery or pile-on the other drugs. We're going to see him soon (my son and I) and after that he'll probably take his own life, as he earned it and it's been a good one. He's being guilt-tripped by a local preacher about sanctity and such.
But I'm thinking about my dad - he's 95 and in terrible pain. He says being old and hurting like he does isn't for sissies, nor would he have taken as good a care of himself in the early years. They won't prescribe pain meds, but don't bat an eye to perform needless surgery or pile-on the other drugs. We're going to see him soon (my son and I) and after that he'll probably take his own life, as he earned it and it's been a good one. He's being guilt-tripped by a local preacher about sanctity and such.
moss
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- Carlisle, Massachusetts, U.S.
Re: Birds in Tree
reposted below -moss
reposted below -moss
- Location
- Chapel Hill, NC
Would somebody please remove my trees... I can't see the pretty birds for all those stupid leaves!
moss
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- Carlisle, Massachusetts, U.S.
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How can I get birds to leave a tree. I have a customer that has a Norway Maple and it gets 50-70 birds every night. She has tried fake snakes and owls and it doesn't work. She wants to remove the tree, is there a way to save it?
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This is not an arborist problem. Tell the customer to call the state/local Audubon Sociey office (not the National Audubon) they can give informed advice on what to do. You could also tell the customer that cutting down the tree is like cutting off their arm for a hangnail problem.
You have to approach the problem understanding the behavior of the particular species to solve it. First you'd need to identify the birds and then research. If you want to put the effort in to do that you can expand your services to bird consultant.
Pointing lasers at birds is totally useless. If you were unlucky enough to laser a bird in the eye it will die a slow death since a bird needs both eyes to survive. It's totally illegal to harm native bird species (ya I know, I'm not talking about game birds in hunting season). Hanging CDs in the tree doesn't work on night roosting birds, that's for vegetable gardens.
Fifty to 70 birds is an insignificant number for a roost. Many winter roost numbers are in the thousands. They are probably house sparrows. Ask the neighbors to take down their bird feeders which are artificially pumping up the house sparrow numbers.
<rant>A friend of mine is a trustee for the condo complex where he lives. The trustees get constant pressure to cut down the trees on the property because birds perch in the trees and splat on resident's cars in the parking lot. God forbid that trees and birds get our precious vehicles dirty. Cut everything down and pave it over so our cars will be safe.<end rant>
-moss
How can I get birds to leave a tree. I have a customer that has a Norway Maple and it gets 50-70 birds every night. She has tried fake snakes and owls and it doesn't work. She wants to remove the tree, is there a way to save it?
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This is not an arborist problem. Tell the customer to call the state/local Audubon Sociey office (not the National Audubon) they can give informed advice on what to do. You could also tell the customer that cutting down the tree is like cutting off their arm for a hangnail problem.
You have to approach the problem understanding the behavior of the particular species to solve it. First you'd need to identify the birds and then research. If you want to put the effort in to do that you can expand your services to bird consultant.
Pointing lasers at birds is totally useless. If you were unlucky enough to laser a bird in the eye it will die a slow death since a bird needs both eyes to survive. It's totally illegal to harm native bird species (ya I know, I'm not talking about game birds in hunting season). Hanging CDs in the tree doesn't work on night roosting birds, that's for vegetable gardens.
Fifty to 70 birds is an insignificant number for a roost. Many winter roost numbers are in the thousands. They are probably house sparrows. Ask the neighbors to take down their bird feeders which are artificially pumping up the house sparrow numbers.
<rant>A friend of mine is a trustee for the condo complex where he lives. The trustees get constant pressure to cut down the trees on the property because birds perch in the trees and splat on resident's cars in the parking lot. God forbid that trees and birds get our precious vehicles dirty. Cut everything down and pave it over so our cars will be safe.<end rant>
-moss
When I said to use a laser light, I didn't say to point it at their eyes! there's a company that sells laser lights for birds so you can use them without harming the birds. Where I work we're big in conservation and these lasers are legal and do not harm the birds! You need to chill! brother///
later in SO-CAL
later in SO-CAL
guymayor
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moss, great idea to calm down and study the bird and their behavior before (overre)acting. It is an arborist's job to use human associates to learn more about tree asociates, to better inform the tree owner.
moss
Been here much more than a while
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- Carlisle, Massachusetts, U.S.
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You need to chill! brother///
later in SO-CAL
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Ya, I was in a bad mood today work's getting to me, usually I'm totally chill
The green laser pointers used by arborists are not good to shine in the eyes of people or animals. That's what I thought you were talking about.
Funny, I was walking down the street with my wife this evening and she pointed to the sidewalk, it was heavily splattered with guano. Looked up, it's a Norway Maple loaded up with mostly juvenile Starlings. Judging by the mess on the sidewalk they've been roosting there a few nights in a row. An invasive tree full of an invasive bird species. This is a post breeding gathering of young starlings, kind of like a gang of teenagers sitting in a tree. Only thing you can do is wait until they move on.
-moss
You need to chill! brother///
later in SO-CAL
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Ya, I was in a bad mood today work's getting to me, usually I'm totally chill
The green laser pointers used by arborists are not good to shine in the eyes of people or animals. That's what I thought you were talking about.Funny, I was walking down the street with my wife this evening and she pointed to the sidewalk, it was heavily splattered with guano. Looked up, it's a Norway Maple loaded up with mostly juvenile Starlings. Judging by the mess on the sidewalk they've been roosting there a few nights in a row. An invasive tree full of an invasive bird species. This is a post breeding gathering of young starlings, kind of like a gang of teenagers sitting in a tree. Only thing you can do is wait until they move on.
-moss
- Location
- Grand Marais, MN
Or do what we did to the Indians - instead of blankets dusted with smallpox, some birdseed peppered with anthrax.
Let's roll, and win this war on terror.
Let's roll, and win this war on terror.
guymayor
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- East US, Earth
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Or do what we did to the Indians - instead of blankets dusted with smallpox, some birdseed peppered with anthrax. Let's roll, and win this war on terror.
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Excellent strategy, General! Picking up the dead bodies is so much easier than dealing with the dung. After all, they only die once.
For the ones that survive, we can haul them off to Azkaban/Gitmo, and interrogate the feathers off of them, pee on Audubon books, anything to break their spirits so they tell us of their nefarious plots.
Pigeons plot in secrecy and hamsters...
Or do what we did to the Indians - instead of blankets dusted with smallpox, some birdseed peppered with anthrax. Let's roll, and win this war on terror.
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Excellent strategy, General! Picking up the dead bodies is so much easier than dealing with the dung. After all, they only die once.
For the ones that survive, we can haul them off to Azkaban/Gitmo, and interrogate the feathers off of them, pee on Audubon books, anything to break their spirits so they tell us of their nefarious plots.
Pigeons plot in secrecy and hamsters...
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