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Reduce the possibility of jamming

I just had a modification idea that could make retrieval easier. Using two loops for the FC leads to the possibility of having one of them jam in the branch union.

Substitute a Klemheist or similar hitch for one of the ends to reduce the possiblity of jamming. The friction hitch loop could be pulled up to the TIP. Then the TIP would act like a slack tender in reverse, slipping the hitch off the end of the rope...or onto the throwline if that were used.
 
Re: Reduce the possibility of jamming

tom, That seems like asking for trouble. Having the kleimheist slip off the end of the rope at 80 feet? how would you insure it would make it to the ground? Adding a throwline into the mix would just make it messy and risk further tangles it seems. It seems like a good idea but I dont see how you would attach the throwline to the rope in such a way that would not jam up the prussicc trying to makeits way off the end of the rope. Also, if you used a kleimhiest would it not be prudent to back it up with a knot?

I am thinking that you just would not use this method in a situation where the crotch is too tight for a biner. There are other tricks for those situations.
 
Re: Reduce the possibility of jamming

Neat technique.

It looks like it's main advantage is functioning as a ultra adjustable cambium saver?

It seems like it would be fairly easy to install hanging on the rope.......without a place to 'step off' on to a limb.
 
Re: Reduce the possibility of jamming

Treebing,

All of your points are sure valid. There are ways to address all of them. Using a stiffer cord for the K would keep the turns open and more likely to slip down the throwline...in most cases...unless the Interdimensional Creatures pay a visit. They can make a mess of any rope trick you know.

There are some times where I feel a backup is mandatory. There are others where I'm comfortable not having one. This is a case by case issue. I would need some time to set this up in the field to see how it might work, or not, as the case may be :)
 
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I have done the setup while hanging on the access line. The only tricky part is untying the strop after your climbing line is installed. Since everything is located below the strop, you have to footlock and stand on the line using one hand to keep you upright as the other unties the prussik. Can't quite get my climbing line cinched up tight enough to hang on it and still reach the strop.
 
After getting your footlocking loop off of the rope I bet you breath a real sigh of relief after lowering yourself down and taking up the slack in your climbing line as your climbing hitch catches.

(I changed the thread title back to the original. It creates confusion changing a title mid thread)
 
This led me to think that maybe if instead of a biner you used the ring ripped off of your adjustable friction saver? that might fit through a tighter crotch, although it also might end up sliding off the end of the line at the TIP and not find its way down unless you caught it with a knot.
 
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This led me to think that maybe if instead of a biner you used the ring ripped off of your adjustable friction saver?

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How would you suggest tying the ring to the rope mid line?
 
Neat knot. Looks good for short pieces of rope but pulling a whole climbing rope through the bull hitch to tie it seems time consuming.
 
it looks like in the video your ataching the ring to a dyneema sling correct? That is pretty slick. I was just thinking that you would then use the sling to prussic it onto the climbing line. Therefore no knots, Can prussic be used as a verb?
 
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