Artemis II

Posted this elsewhere.
Around 60 years after man made his first powered flight, he flew to the moon, got out, drove a car (which is still there and and can be seen apparently) jumped about, played golf, got back in and flew back.
An incredible quantum leap in technology.

Now nearly 60 years later they fly round the moon and come back, no landing, nothing, yet there’s all this whooping and hollerin’
I don’t believe the moon landings were faked, it would take too many people to be in on it.
But you can see how this feeds into the conspiracy theorists narrative.
 
The first time I had to use my imagination, as we only had shortwave to follow along, and only learned later they launched from the moon with the help of a writing pen. This time they had their own private bathroom and front porch.
 
Mick Dempsey! said:
Posted this elsewhere.
Around 60 years after man made his first powered flight, he flew to the moon, got out, drove a car (which is still there and and can be seen apparently) jumped about, played golf, got back in and flew back.
An incredible quantum leap in technology.

Now nearly 60 years later they fly round the moon and come back, no landing, nothing, yet there’s all this whooping and hollerin’
I don’t believe the moon landings were faked, it would take too many people to be in on it.
But you can see how this feeds into the conspiracy theorists narrative.
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Riddle me this,

1. If the landings were not faked, why was every shred of evidence that we had landed, destroyed? When Ron Howard filmed his documentary, “from the Earth to the Moon”, he had to go to blockbuster for source video. Why, because NASA destroyed the original footage. When a smart person murders, what do they do? They clean the crime seen and hide the body. That way, someone else can be blamed, or no one at all.

2. Why is there more footage of the 69 missions, than the Artemis mission? We got a couple of stills of Earth and a horrible livestream. Where is the Timelapse of the earth spinning, weather patterns, hd video of the planet going dark and city lights coming on? In the age of cameras everywhere, there were none being pointed at the earth?

3. In 69, how did they solve the problem of the Van Allen Belt? How did Artemis solve it?

4. Why are there CGI glitches in the cabin footage? For example, when one of the crew spins his soup, a red camera cue can be seen, then disappears.

5. I want to see footage of that rocket going the required 17,000 mph to escape earths gravity. Also, why is there never cockpit footage of these launches? The blue angels make people go unconscious pulling 5gs. The astronauts are subjected to 4gs for 10 minutes? I suspect the reason is that would just be more scrutiny on the missions. The Soyuz rocket posted some cockpit footage and it was a terrible idea for legitimacy. The crew was high fiving and playing with buttons, when they should have been glued to there seats

Maybe it’s all legit and I am just to skeptical, but it seems like a Hollywood production.
 
F5Treeservice said:
Riddle me this,

1. If the landings were not faked, why was every shred of evidence that we had landed, destroyed? When Ron Howard filmed his documentary, “from the Earth to the Moon”, he had to go to blockbuster for source video. Why, because NASA destroyed the original footage. When a smart person murders, what do they do? They clean the crime seen and hide the body. That way, someone else can be blamed, or no one at all.

2. Why is there more footage of the 69 missions, than the Artemis mission? We got a couple of stills of Earth and a horrible livestream. Where is the Timelapse of the earth spinning, weather patterns, hd video of the planet going dark and city lights coming on? In the age of cameras everywhere, there were none being pointed at the earth?

3. In 69, how did they solve the problem of the Van Allen Belt? How did Artemis solve it?

4. Why are there CGI glitches in the cabin footage? For example, when one of the crew spins his soup, a red camera cue can be seen, then disappears.

5. I want to see footage of that rocket going the required 17,000 mph to escape earths gravity. Also, why is there never cockpit footage of these launches? The blue angels make people go unconscious pulling 5gs. The astronauts are subjected to 4gs for 10 minutes? I suspect the reason is that would just be more scrutiny on the missions. The Soyuz rocket posted some cockpit footage and it was a terrible idea for legitimacy. The crew was high fiving and playing with buttons, when they should have been glued to there seats

Maybe it’s all legit and I am just to skeptical, but it seems like a Hollywood production.
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I am a skeptic as well, but as someone who is equally skeptical of both sides, I gotta ask you this: Why? Why are they faking it? They could maintain the status quo without posting what, to you and other like you, looks so cheap and fake that it doesn't even come close to selling your brilliance on the idea at all. They didn't have to spend any of the money at all, not even the $50 that is all looks like it cost to you.
 
Matias said:
I am a skeptic as well, but as someone who is equally skeptical of both sides, I gotta ask you this: Why? Why are they faking it? They could maintain the status quo without posting what, to you and other like you, looks so cheap and fake that it doesn't even come close to selling your brilliance on the idea at all. They didn't have to spend any of the money at all, not even the $50 that is all looks like it cost to you.
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Why is a question I never ask my homeowners when they choose to remove a healthy tree. Knowing why is not my business. My business is to fulfill their wishes. I am agnostic on the moon missions too, for a number of reasons, but primarily because there is no way to prove it one way or another, I can’t go to the moon and wait for them to show up. I can’t ride the rocket with them. All of us have two options, wholeheartedly believe what we are told, or weigh the evidence for ourselves.

Here is a question for you, have you ever been lied too by figures of authority? By heads of science or government? What about COVID, The BLM riots, Epstein, Iraq, 9/11? The primary purpose of the media, is to shape your perception. NASA is unlike other “scientific” endeavors. They film and broadcast their goings on. Therefore they have become an arm of that media. As with all “nonfiction” media, its role is to shape your perception. Shape it into what, we can only speculate.now I have my own opinions of why, but it’s speculation.
 
I think they really did land on the moon. Is it possible that the video was a reenactment (created in a studio) and that they tried to pass it off as the real thing?
 
surveyor said:
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That's pretty cool.

But, if you're gonna doubt the moon landing (I don't, but just sayin'):
1) That video doesn't prove its a feather.
2) The same thing can be done (and has been done) in a vacuum chamber. Would be harder to fake the low gravity. I guess if you want to disprove that it was in a vacuum chamber on earth instead of on the moon, you could time the drop. On earth they should accelerate at 9.81 m/s² while on the moon it would be 1.62 m/s²
 
MA Arborist said:
I don’t.
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Mick Dempsey! said:
Posted this elsewhere.
Around 60 years after man made his first powered flight, he flew to the moon, got out, drove a car (which is still there and and can be seen apparently) jumped about, played golf, got back in and flew back.
An incredible quantum leap in technology.

Now nearly 60 years later they fly round the moon and come back, no landing, nothing, yet there’s all this whooping and hollerin’
I don’t believe the moon landings were faked, it would take too many people to be in on it.
But you can see how this feeds into the conspiracy theorists narrative.
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Elon Musk needs to go talk to the egg heads who developed the batteries for that lunar rover. He can’t even come up with a battery that will survive past -20 to 120. The temps on the moon swing from -250 to 280. He could be rich.
 
The rocket launch experienced as a live audience member on-site probably feels pretty real and not cgi. Or maybe its a 100 square mile outdoors studio effect. They just hid the speakers and projectors.

Just kidding. A fellow from Oregon's dad worked on the initial photographic mapping of the moon's surface back in the 60's. Pretty cool. IIRC they used the mapping to select landing sites.

Oh another thing. It's impossible to modulate data comms onto a laser light beam. If that were possible they might invent fiberoptic data comms and we all know that's made up as sure as I'm typing onto the internet. ;)

Apologies for giving oxygen to the troll. My bad.
 
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F5Treeservice said:
Why is a question I never ask my homeowners when they choose to remove a healthy tree. Knowing why is not my business. My business is to fulfill their wishes. I am agnostic on the moon missions too, for a number of reasons, but primarily because there is no way to prove it one way or another, I can’t go to the moon and wait for them to show up. I can’t ride the rocket with them. All of us have two options, wholeheartedly believe what we are told, or weigh the evidence for ourselves.

Here is a question for you, have you ever been lied too by figures of authority? By heads of science or government? What about COVID, The BLM riots, Epstein, Iraq, 9/11? The primary purpose of the media, is to shape your perception. NASA is unlike other “scientific” endeavors. They film and broadcast their goings on. Therefore they have become an arm of that media. As with all “nonfiction” media, its role is to shape your perception. Shape it into what, we can only speculate.now I have my own opinions of why, but it’s speculation.
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That's what I figured. I was just checking if you had an original thought to offer.
 
Matias said:
That's what I figured. I was just checking if you had an original thought to offer.
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I do, but it’s unprovable. The poster above you calls questioning what you see and hear from media trolling. Why were we lied too during Covid? To shape our perception into fear of (mostly non-lethal) microorganisms. That fear manipulated many of us (including probably people who think skeptics are trolls) to get an untested, experimental vaccine. I think these NASA missions serve a similar purpose. To make you feel small and insignificant. To shape your perception into a man that is in awe man (and the state) and not your creator. Remember that NASA is a government entity. They create nothing anyone wants, which is why they must steal our tax dollars to most likely pretend to be flying around in empty rockets. Maybe it’s all legit and they wasted billions to take a sight seeing trip around the moon for no reason.

The lady astronaut summed it up nicely in her uh-oh speech. Earth is a little fragile dot, in the blackness of space. A lifeboat drifting in the abyss. Nothing could be further from the truth. Earth is under the control and protection of almighty God. Nothing happens here outside of his will. Man does all things in his arrogance, to ultimately fulfill his purposes.
 
F5Treeservice said:
I do, but it’s unprovable. The poster above you calls questioning what you see and hear from media trolling. Why were we lied too during Covid? To shape our perception into fear of (mostly non-lethal) microorganisms. That fear manipulated many of us (including probably people who think skeptics are trolls) to get an untested, experimental vaccine. I think these NASA missions serve a similar purpose. To make you feel small and insignificant. To shape your perception into a man that is in awe man (and the state) and not your creator. Remember that NASA is a government entity. They create nothing anyone wants, which is why they must steal our tax dollars to most likely pretend to be flying around in empty rockets. Maybe it’s all legit and they wasted billions to take a sight seeing trip around the moon for no reason.

The lady astronaut summed it up nicely in her uh-oh speech. Earth is a little fragile dot, in the blackness of space. A lifeboat drifting in the abyss. Nothing could be further from the truth. Earth is under the control and protection of almighty God. Nothing happens here outside of his will. Man does all things in his arrogance, to ultimately fulfill his purposes.
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Glad you got it all figured out. There are years and years of back catalogue if you care to read what many of us here think about all those subjects. You'll find people that agree with you, and many that don't. You contradict yourself enough in the little that you've said that I won't waste more time on this with you. You're new here, so I just wanted to check. Thanks for confirming my guess.
 
Matias said:
Glad you got it all figured out. There are years and years of back catalogue if you care to read what many of us here think about all those subjects. You'll find people that agree with you, and many that don't. You contradict yourself enough in the little that you've said that I won't waste more time on this with you. You're new here, so I just wanted to check. Thanks for confirming my
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Your welcome. I might be new to this board, but been on arboristsite since 2005. I could be wrong, but is it not basically the same community? Also, why do you think there is so much passion and emotion, for a little government organization, that has nothing to do with the common tree man?
 
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