Are you considering a lowering and lifting device?

Re: GRCS on ebay

Is there a link on the internet that gives an instructional video on the use of the GRCS? I know when you buy the product it comes with an instructional video, but was hoping it might be online as well...?

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There's a GRCS listed on ebay. 'First one I've seen on there so I thought I'd mention it. It reads pickup only but maybe the guy could be convinced to ship it. I don't know anything about it or have any connection to the seller.
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GRCS on ebay

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I owe a HUGE thanks to Smallwood here....THANKS!!

Thanks to Smallwood, I watched this item all week and tonight won the item. Threw a bid in the final seconds to win it. I had contacted the seller over the weekend about shipping. He agreed to ship if I paid it.

Got it for 950 + shipping. There was only 1 other bidder. I hope it wasnt someone here. if so, sorry dude.
 
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I owe a HUGE thanks to Smallwood here....THANKS!!

Thanks to Smallwood, I watched this item all week and tonight won the item. Threw a bid in the final seconds to win it. I had contacted the seller over the weekend about shipping. He agreed to ship if I paid it.

Got it for 950 + shipping. There was only 1 other bidder. I hope it wasnt someone here. if so, sorry dude.

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You stole that sucker!

Wonder who it really belonged to? LOL.
 
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That looks like a great deal, David. After you get it please let us know what kind of shape it's in.
Regards,
Phil
 
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Got it for 950 + shipping. There was only 1 other bidder. I hope it wasnt someone here. if so, sorry dude.

[/ QUOTE ] Hey dude, that was me. Good show. Your a better sniper bidder than me. 15 sec was it? Love the rush from ebay in the final seconds.

Your stoked! Enjoy it!

Steve
 
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Wonder who it really belonged to? LOL.

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I talked to the seller Friday am and he is in Macon GA. Getting out of the tree biz. I didnt ask why though. Anyone it that area? Ill throw his name in a pmail for info. Not in the public tho.
 
Re: Are you considering a lowering and lifting dev

To me , you'd have to give me a Hobbs , but I'd buy a GRCS .
It shouldn't say " new improved Hobbs " it should say The
" fixed " Hobb's .
 
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To me , you'd have to give me a Hobbs , but I'd buy a GRCS .
It shouldn't say " new improved Hobbs " it should say The
" fixed " Hobb's .

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Riggs, Have you bought a GRCS?
 
Re: Are you considering a lowering and lifting dev

Nah , never bought one mate . I will say this , If I needed one I would buy one (GRCS) . The first Hobbs , if it was a car it would have ("should have) been recalled . Great Idea by Mr. Hobbs , but sold to the general public as a unsafe tool . I'm glad they "fixed" it . It 's not about the money , I just don't need one. How about you Reg , ever buy one ? I don't mean to take away from anyones advertisment post , I'm just telling it like it is , a spade is a spade .
 
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Nah , never bought one mate . I will say this , If I needed one I would buy one (GRCS) . The first Hobbs , if it was a car it would have ("should have) been recalled . Great Idea by Mr. Hobbs , but sold to the general public as a unsafe tool .

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Wow, that is a strong statement! Any statement like that should be backed up with some sort of information that backs it up. Otherwise it is just an unsubstantiated...
(unconfirmed, unsupported, uncorroborated, unverified, unattested, unproven; unfounded, groundless, baseless, without foundation, unjustified. opinion).

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I'm glad they "fixed" it . It 's not about the money , I just don't need one. How about you Reg , ever buy one ? I don't mean to take away from anyones advertisment post , I'm just telling it like it is , a spade is a spade .

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How have they 'fixed' the Hobbs?
The fairleads are the same, the frame structure is the same, only the drum is slightly different.

Can, or will you, substantiate this statement?

Thank you

Frans

ps: I do agree with you that this thread is an 'advertisement' for the Hobbs. The Treebuzz is a forum for sharing information and has specific areas for tree related equipment adverts called: 'TreeBay'.
 
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The first Hobbs , if it was a car it would have ("should have) been recalled . Great Idea by Mr. Hobbs , but sold to the general public as a unsafe tool . I'm glad they "fixed" it .

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Could you please elaborate?

D Mc
 
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Yes I can Frans . You can drop a volkswagon from my statement and it won't break . Did I say that ?
 
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How about you Reg , ever buy one ?

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No I dont own one. Right now it just wouldn't solve anything for me so I couldn't really justify buying either device.

However, if I could purchase without the winch facility, less the cost, then I might be tempted.
 
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Nah , never bought one mate . I will say this , If I needed one I would buy one (GRCS) . The first Hobbs , if it was a car it would have ("should have) been recalled . Great Idea by Mr. Hobbs , but sold to the general public as a unsafe tool . I'm glad they "fixed" it . It 's not about the money , I just don't need one. How about you Reg , ever buy one ? I don't mean to take away from anyones advertisment post , I'm just telling it like it is , a spade is a spade .

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And a diamond is still a diamond!
 
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The first Hobbs , if it was a car it would have ("should have) been recalled . Great Idea by Mr. Hobbs , but sold to the general public as a unsafe tool . I'm glad they "fixed" it .

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Could you please elaborate?

D Mc

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I would like to hear what this opinion is based on.

D Mc
 
Re: Are you considering a lowering and lifting dev

Don Blair, on p, 201 of Arborist Equipment discusses the Hobbs Lowering Device. (It's copyrighted in 1995, before the GRCS appeared on the market.)

He says there that, for practical purposes, you should only expect to get about six feet of lift from the Hobbs, although sometimes you can get more. He also says that a predictable snafu is wraps getting crossed on the winch drum.

I have no experience with the Hobbs, but would be curious to hear comments from Hobbs users on the question: Is rope jamming a common problem with this device?

I do have some experience with the GRCS. It seems to me that the self-tailer and fairlead do a very effective job of keeping the rope wraps separated and tight against the winch drum. Crossing and jamming has never been a problem. We can lift objects all the way up to the rigging block if we want. The limiting factor is arm fatigue.

But we overcome that by using a big, reversible Milwaukee drill. Now we can use the GRCS in a more crane-like way. It saves a great amount of effort--less bending, less dragging, less lifting. We love it.
 
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Sounds like your very pleased with your investment billson, good to hear.

But if you dont mind just humouring someone with very limited experience with one and elaborate on on the following, especially the crane part. Thanks

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But we overcome that by using a big, reversible Milwaukee drill. Now we can use the GRCS in a more crane-like way. It saves a great amount of effort--less bending, less dragging, less lifting. We love it.


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I have no experience with the Hobbs, but would be curious to hear comments from Hobbs users on the question: Is rope jamming a common problem with this device?


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I have used both devices, for many years. In fact I learned tree work using the Hobbs.
However, once the GRCS was introduced I bought one and never looked back.

To answer your question, the Hobbs does a great job of fairleading the rope into and out of the drum.

As does the GRCS.

But with both devices, proper handling of the ropes is essential. For example, when lowering loads the operator stands at a distance from the device and is allowing the load to 'run' (thereby reducing the shock loading effect), the rope can develop slack between the operator's hands and the device.
This slack can cause the rope to 'jump' and create a wrap on the drum.

Both the Hobbs & the GRCS have developed fairlead systems to overcome this. However no device can overcome improper use.


A great feature of the GRCS is that the design of it allows the operator to re-position the unit away from the landing zone so your out of the way of the loads and thus able to safely operate the unit by standing as close as you want to.
Also the 'pig-tail' fairlead allows the operator to stand in any direction from the tree/unit, and, stand as far away from the device as the rope will allow.

I dont recommend ANYONE use these devices without proper training.

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But we overcome that by using a big, reversible Milwaukee drill. Now we can use the GRCS in a more crane-like way. It saves a great amount of effort--less bending, less dragging, less lifting. We love it.

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The drill feature is fantastic! I use a 3000 watt ultra quiet honda generator for those places with no available power.

DO NOT USE AN IMPACT DRILL! Not a good idea at all. The Milwaukee drill works just fine for me. but the gas powered drills are very slow.

-WARNING-
HERE IS A SHAMELESS PROMOTING OF THE GRCS.

I like the GRCS, I have met the inventor, and I call him my friend. However, if I thought the GRCS was in anyway inferior to any other lifting and lowering device, I would not promote it. Furthermore, I am not paid to promote the GRCS. I just feel that it is a superior tree tool that is an essential tool for any tree service.

So here goes:

This drill feature is only one of the many reasons for my personal choice of the GRCS. The Hobbs just cannot compete with this superior technology in my opinion.
Here are a few more reasons:

-Truck mount. Mounts in any towing receiver. So it can be mounted anywhere you weld a receiver on the truck. Even the side if you want. Portable Purchase Point!

-Drill feature. Effortlessly lift loads, haul a climber to the top of the tree, haul the rescue dummy on aerial rescue training exercises, or haul up tools to the climber

-True one man operation. The GRCS is designed and engineered so that ONE (1) person can EASILY operate the device.

-Self tailing. This means that you can instantly lock off a load. This allows ONE (1) person to lift loads with no hassles whatsoever. No tying the rope onto the drum so you can lift the load. No having one person hold the rope tight on the drum so another can crank up the load. No heavy truckers bar to operate the drum. Simply a light composite handle which locks and unlocks onto the end of the drum.

- Two speed winch. The handle on the GRCS can be turned in BOTH directions. The winch has a gear reduction so turning it one way is very fast, and turning it the other way results in massive torque to lift even a car off the ground if you really want.

-Choice of two (2) different drums and both are included in the purchase price of the GRCS. One drum which is the two speed winch, and one fixed alum. drum which has a massive diameter which allows you to drop even the largest loads and reduce glazing because the drum is made out of thick alum. tubing. The diameter is larger than even the largest portawrap commercially available.

- Lighter and easier to carry/transport and mount on the tree. This is because by sliding out one pin, the drum is separated from the base plate. MUCH easier and lighter to mount on the tree with the drum removed.

- The visor. This is a plate which holds the GRCS from sliding up the trunk on removals. The GRCS cannot slide up the trunk even with the largest loads applied. This plate can be attached or removed in seconds. So if you are doing a removal, use the 'Visor' attachment. When you are pruning, take it off. Easy peasy no sweat just one single pin slides in and out to remove or install.

If you are considering a lifting and lowering device, the GRCS is by far the best investment.
 

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