Arbor-X needs one or two new workers in Bel Air,MD

theXman

theXman

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MD, USA
I'm looking to hire at least one new worker, right now.

Groundman or beginning climber needed. No experience necessary, but..... Also no college necessary but forestry degrees really help, especially for moving up in positions.

Also, I'd like to hire a spray technician, by April/May. I can train, but you should have a knowledge of insects/diseases.

Private Message me.

I may add more to this post later.
 
Okay, here is a link to more info about our openings.

It's on monster.com:

http://jobsearch.monster.com/getjob.asp?JobID=28405187&AVSDM=2005%2D03%2D21+20%3A51%3A46&Logo=1&q=tree+service&lid=458&sort=rv&vw=b&cy=US&brd=1,1862,1863

A note to other employers out there; I had good results from monster last year. I hired two good guys from that sites help. I did have a third that I had to let go after a few weeks.

I'm suprized that I never had anyone from tree buzz inquire when I posted this before. I do prefer to train new climbers myself, but a well seasoned and actually GOOD climber would be very nice too.

I welcome anyone to come visit and check us out. Be sure to call me ahead of time. Anyone in a current job, but aren't happy; we could schedule a weekend job sometime if you wanted to see our operation (before you make the move to quit).

Anyone interested, be sure to check out the monster link. If that link doesn't work for some reason. Go to www.monster.com and use TREE SERVICE as your search words and pick Baltimore, MD as your location. You should see Arbor-X Inc listed.

thanks,
David.
 
Yes.

I had left a message on your cell during that road trip of yours to Cal. But I guess you had already passed through.

Hold on a minute, why do you want to work a day or two?

Aren't you set on staying in California? I'd rather not spend time working with someone that just wants to see different operations, I'm interested if the individuals are looking at the possibility to work with us full time. So, keep that in mind please.
 
I claim I pay some of the highest wages in the area for good workers, and I really think I do, but I could be wrong.

I will not state wages of current employees, that's their business. I did have one guy leave this winter and I think it's okay to use his pay as an example.

I hired him last May(2004) (maybe June or April though), he was working as a groundman. I was also (slowly) having him up in some trees with me on trimmings his last few months; probably only 4 to 5 days a month with some climbing, all the rest was being a groundman. I was intending on him being a climber full-time, by the end of this season.

Anyway, I hired him at $15.00 and hour, by Christmas (7 months later) he was making $18.00. So, as a groundman, he was making $18 and hour with 7 months of work experience. He had never worked for a tree company or logging before.

Compared to the wage surveys from TCIA, I am way high on pay.

And compared to the other companies I talk to, this seems like very good pay.

A beginner groundman, needs to work hard enough to be worth at the minimum $10 an hour or they aren't worth keeping around full-time. Usually my workers are good enough and learn fast enough to get raises very fast. Often they have a raise in 2 or 3 weeks. I've given others a $1.00 raise after the first week, then again, it's taken others 2 months to get a $.50 raise. It's all up to how fast you learn and what amount of work to put out.
 
That is some good pay.

WHen I was going to school I worked with a company other than my dad during the week. When I talked to him on the phone about the job he said he would start me off at 10 and hour and if I knew what I was doing I would make more. Well I didn't tell him that I had alot of experience on the ground working for my dad all those years. After that first day he said see you tomrow and I was making 16$ and hour. I couldn't believe it. At the end of the summer I had to get back to school so I had to leave the job. He said if I was workign year round for him he would have given me another 2-3$ raise. Just a week ago he called me and asked what were my chances of coming back to work for him. I told him not that great since I was working for my dad full time now. He said that I could come in and work any day that I want for him. I thought that was nice and he said that if we ever needed anythign he would do his best to help out. Again nice of him. I think the pay that you (X) are offering is very good for a climbe and your rate for a raise is really good and fair. I don't think anyone can complain about those wages for a groundman especially just starting off.
 
Fact of the matter is, I will be passing through that area in a few months, so I am limited in how long I could spend anywhere. It's fun to travel around and work with different people, so that part it nice. Bonus to meet people from the Buzz! And best of all...TREE WORK!

love
nick
 
I still haven't hired anyone yet!

I have 3 that look good from monster though. I need to call them again tonight.

I haven't been on the net for a while, spyware ruined the computer for about 4 weeks. So, to get back with ya, Nick, let me know when you will be passing though.

Interested in teaching some splicing still?, for a fee?

later,
 
What do ya need? A building or a big yard?

My property would probably be okay.
-I can set up tables in my big yard, that work?


My 2 brothers with tree services would likely sit in too. Also, I know a few others.

figure up a fee for a class (you know how long it takes), I would hope it would be a very beginners class.

Also friends with a few other tree services and I know a few farmer/friends that might like to see it too.

Like I said, figure up a fee for about how long it takes to teach us something from the beginning and I will try to get enough people together to bring the cost down so we feel good about it.

You should probably private message me the bill estimate.

Thanks.
 
x,
I just read the link you posted, you discriminate against smokers.
So you'd pass someone up because they smoke cigs?
Your limiting yourself and your company to half of the potential workforce.



qoute from your ad

A note here about applicants. As stated above, individuals need to be in good physical shape. This means no smokers or people that have never had a physically strenuous job or don't exercise. Individuals that have concentrated on 'office' type jobs and do not regularly work out, need not apply

smokers, people who dont exercise, past office workers need not apply? /forum/images/graemlins/9lame.gif

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Tophopper,

Hmmm, I guess you smoke?

Hey, I want the best workers I can find. And I've found that people with these things(smokers, or no past hands on labor, or softies) often make for lesser workers.

If I never get applicants that meet my standards, then I would have to lower my standards. But I do get them, so I'm keeping my standards high. I have 3 good interviews to give in the next 2 weeks.

Everyone always complains they can't find good workers. But I always do, maybe employers should search harder and put up higher standards.

It's great having a crew that can pull their weight all the same. We all get along very well that way.

I've had a few ground people that claimed they were hard workers and looked fit, but smoked. They would always get out of breath on hard days and have to stop to light up a smoke to somehow get their breath. I said to myself in the past, that's it, no more smokers.

Hey, it's my business and I can run it how I want to. So thanks for the advice, but I don't agree with ya. /forum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

I've had other companies ask me to screen their applicants for them and give the interviews cause I always seem to get such good workers. I haven't done that for them yet though.

see ya,
 
I think saying something like that "no smokers or people that don't work out or just work in an office" is fine. It lets people know that the job they are considering IS physically demanding. Someone, somewhere is going to read that and say, "I have an office job, and I don't workout, but I KNOW I can do that job." This person, if they ARE suited for the job, would not let something like that dissuade them. That is the time to hit that interview and tell them straight up, "I am a tough person and I haven't worked out in a while and I know the first 2 weeks will be very tough for me, but I KNOW I'll be good for this job."

Now they get bonus points, in my book. A potential employer would be silly not to give someone with this gumption a try.

I am biased, though. I don't like working with smokers if they smoke in the truck, or slow production while they take a cig. break at the wrong times.

love
nick
 
...Come to think of it, there was a guy I worked with in NJ and he was very in tuned that people didn't like the smoke and he would often wander off on lunch break to have his fix, or he would position himself down wind. This was not a bother at all.

love
nick
 
When I was new to hiring. I used to put an ad in the newspaper and once on radio. I had no real screening except I always insisted they send a written letter or resume. (This would get rid of some of the lazy people that didn't want to put in any more effort than an easy phone call.)

Anyway, I would interiew lots of people one on one for the screening. Some of them were in terrible shape, quite overweight and never done any physical work. I remember this one plump boy, he thought somehow it was going to be a cake job (I don't know how), but during the interview he was then informed how strenous the job was going to be and he had a look of shock on his face, he simply said, I had no idea that it might be a physically hard job (and more or less, never mind then).

But yes, I would feel the same way about someone that wanted to take on this lifestyle even if they were not yet physically up to it (but they better be close).

I had a very ambitious worker once that agreed to quit smoking to be able to be hired (I did not suggest it, they did). The enthusiasm of this worker was as high as it could be. I did hire them. Unfortunately, that persons mind was not wired for understanding the mechanics and physics of tree work and it was also a bit dangerous to have them on the crew. It was very hard firing someone that had that much interest. I hope they at least stayed away from the cigs and got something good out of it.
 
uhh, yes X I am a smoker,

And yes it is your company run it how you'd like. /forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I just think your limiting yourself. Many a good workers smoke and work very hard and well. I happen to be one of them. I know smoking is bad for me, and someday(when im ready) I will quit. However, I will keep pace with any non smoker and it does not affect my production at all. Your ad just got me curious about your stance and your flexabilty about it.

Hypothetically, if i were to apply at your company for employment, you would not even consider hiring me because i smoke?
Even if I had ALL of the skills you were looking for?

Even if I was a better / faster climber than anyone on your crew and could prove it?

Even if you mandated a rule about no smoking at your work sites?

Would you fire someone who started smoking after employment?

What about someone who recently quit? (chances are they may relapse, yes?)

What about someone who uses chewing tobacco?


I think you get what im trying to say here, just because someone smokes, you prejudge their abilities and their capabilities, hence giving them no chance to SHOW you what they are worth.

Im not offended by any means, but to say, a smoker cant pull his weight and will hold back production is just a bunch of crap. It's all about the individual person, and I hope you consider this.

Ive built a good reputation for myself over the years as a technical and progressive climber, the fact that I smoke, has no bearing on that what-so-ever.
And as a matter of fact, i know many smokers who'll work circles around non-smokers.

My main point here being.... it's the individual.

I really hope you dont pass up a good or great employee because of something so silly!

just my 2 cents, Ill get off the soapbox now,




besides I could use a smoke /forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif

no hard feelings eh?
 
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I am biased, though. I don't like working with smokers if they smoke in the truck, or slow production while they take a cig. break at the wrong times.

love
nick

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its about respect nick,
I am usually aware of the people around me, and if it would bother them that i would smoke I respect that. If I were in a company truck with a non smoker i wouldnt smoke. I used to work for someone who despised cigarettes, the rule was no smoking near or around him or in ANY of his trucks. Again I respected this.
Being my own boss, Like X says, its my company, Ill smoke if I want to. But if it was an obvoius nuisance to someone I would forego.
Regarding taking a break to have a smoke....that wouldn't fly with me, Im Ok with you smokin, but i aint gonna pay for your smoke breaks. You either smoke while you work (respectfully, and not around client), or you smoke on your own time.
 
Definitely NO hard feelings man.

I think it's cool you challenge things I say.

You don't do it with calling names or derogotory remarks. So that's always cool with me.

I'm PM you.
 
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