Another sign of the world's end

Tom Dunlap

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Another sign of the world\'s end

Since I'm not a sports fan I have no clue about the core reasons for the NHL strike. In a general way I do have a biton an understanding. Not unlike any other labor strike. Labor feels that they're not getting paid enough and management feels that they pay too much. No different than what the Wobblies felt. Did anyone ever see the movie "Joe Hill"?

When I read this article the magnatude of this strike didn't become real until the last paragraph. Wow!!! Another history-making event that we might all live through.

The article:

http://www.startribune.com/stories/503/5240946.html

The last paragraph:

Publicly, though, the overwhelming majority of players have supported the union's stance. NHLPA executive committee member Trent Klatt, who plays for the Los Angeles Kings, is among those who rejects the idea of a cap.

"I would just flat out tell the [owners] that, 'If you want to play hockey, you're going to have to get off your stance,' " Klatt said. "You're going to have to give up this cap, this linkage, this cost certainty, whatever you want to call it. I would flat-out tell them that. If you want to play hockey that's what's going to have to happen."

And if that doesn't happen by Wednesday, the NHL will become the first major professional league in North America to cancel an entire season because of a labor dispute and will fail to award the Stanley Cup for the first time since 1919 when a flu epidemic caused the finals to be cancelled.
 
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That just shows that the majority of professional athletes are in it for the money, not for the love of the game.

We need to have more athletes like Kevin Garnett, who took a pay cut a few years ago so the T-wolves would be able to afford more high quality players. And they were able to have a great season last year, they didnt make it to finals, but they made it closer than they had in team history.

Sorry back to hockey. I think it is rediculous that the season is being canceled because players want more and more money.
 
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We need more athlete like that who are willing to play the game for 3 days strait and not get paid. Just helping out other people who really need the money.

Three days strait, thats amazing. Any idea how long they are planning on playing for?
 
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Ryan,

you do realise that the players actually see the game as a job. They don't necessarily play because they love the sport. They play because they are good at it. Just like some fishing guides don't perform thier work because they love it, they do it because they are good at it and can get paid for it. It seems outrageous to think that someone would be more or less indifferent to the game as long as they are being paid, but that is the simple truth. I am willing to bet there are at least a couple arborist who do thier work because they are being paid, not because they love it.

On the other hand, I do believe that professional sports would be much better if being able to play was a bigger concern to the players than how much they are being paid.
 
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you do realise that the players actually see the game as a job. They don't necessarily play because they love the sport.

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Most of the players in the NHL have been playing "The Game" since the age of 4 or 5. They grew up with hockey on the brain. They have all been at the rink at 4 or 5 am itchin to play. I guarentee you that most of them love "The Game".
 

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That just shows that the majority of professional athletes are in it for the money, not for the love of the game.

We need to have more athletes like Kevin Garnett, who took a pay cut a few years ago so the T-wolves would be able to afford more high quality players. And they were able to have a great season last year, they didnt make it to finals, but they made it closer than they had in team history.

Sorry back to hockey. I think it is ridiculous that the season is being canceled because players want more and more money.

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I don't see much hockey here, either. But, if NHL is anything like other sports, the tickets keep getting more expensive. The souvenirs keep getting more expensive. Nachos and beer keep getting more expensive. Parking keeps getting more expensive. Stadiums keep getting less expensive (paid for by municipalities through extortion from owners). So why shouldn't the players get a cut of the cash?

I think it is ridiculous the season may be cancelled, too, but I'm not laying it all on the players. Without them, the owners just have really expensive club houses to smoke cigars in. I think they should all get over themselves and take a cut for the fans.

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I heard today that there is a press conference tomorrow. They will either cancel or announce an agreement. They said that the players agreed to a cap but want it at 52mil/team. The owners want 40mil/team. We'll see? There is still some hope that tomorrow will start the 2004-2005 season.
 
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Problem with hockey is that they really can't make enough money with arena profits. Most money in other sports comes from selling ad time on the air. Since hockey games don't see as much exposure, ad space is cheaper and less sought after by the big companies. Until hockey draws as much exposure as other sports, they won't be able to compete with the bigger sports.
 
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Nah nah nah........nah nah nah........hey hey.............Goodbye! /forum/images/graemlins/obsessed.gif
 
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Until hockey draws as much exposure as other sports, they won't be able to compete with the bigger sports.

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This is true Mark. But they have to be playing before they can get exposure and airtime. This definatly made things worse for the NHL. But baseball came back pretty strong after the the strike awhile back, I dont remember exactly when, but mabey there is still hope for the NHL.
 
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The loss of the season won't effect the Canadian market whatsoever. The American market will be hurt for sure though! Some small market US teams with poor fan support may have to fold in the next couple of years. The small market Canadian teams have great fan support. I am looking forward to all of the rule changes that will come about as a result of this. I think that we will have a much better game in the end!
 
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The loss of the season won't effect the Canadian market whatsoever. The American market will be hurt for sure though! Some small market US teams with poor fan support may have to fold in the next couple of years. The small market Canadian teams have great fan support. I am looking forward to all of the rule changes that will come about as a result of this. I think that we will have a much better game in the end!

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That's the spirit!
 
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The Toronto Maple Leafs have always made money, if the cap had gone through then the Leaf's would have been able to keep 4-5 of their top contracts only. Myself, could care less, too busy working to play.
 
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