Ancient Redwood "Aradia" Cut

Ancient Redwood \"Aradia\" Cut

Eureka, CA - Treesitters were forcibly removed yesterday from their perches high above the forest floor, and two activists on the ground were arrested in attempts to stop the cutting of old-growth redwoods above Grizzly Creek in the Van Duzen watershed. One of the trees cut, Aradia, has been the site of on-going protests and treesits since before the death of activist David "Gypsy" Chain, who was killed there by a tree felled by a Pacific Lumber logger in September 1998.

The treesitters were reportedly removed by Eric Schatz Tree Service, who forcibly extracted more than a dozen activists from trees in the Freshwater area in March and April 2003. Schatz and four other extractors are facing civil lawsuits stemming from those incidents. Pacific Lumber, the company that hired the extractors, is also named in the suit.

Activists reported few police on the scene, but said the area dubbed "Gypsy Mountain" was crawling with loggers and workers from the Oregon-based Columbia Helicopters. One activist said he was tackled by a Pacific Lumber forester, who was dressed in camouflage and hiding in the bushes.

Another activist on the scene commented, “We tried to get to Aradia, but security was in the way. So many of us up there who have a history with Aradia - who have a tale or two to tell about her love -thought she was immortal. We thought we had her well-protected.”
 
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Mark,

This is my account based on reports from activists who were out there. Four people are still in jail, and I haven't talked to them yet. I'll have more info in a day or two.

Remedy
 
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Thank you for the searching/objective question Mark.

I think having official reports such as news reports is important to honestly reveal these events.

No offense Remedy but your accounts have been verified to not completely and accurately cover the stories.

I know this is a sensitive issue and highly deserving of being covered so folks from many different walks of life can become informed and prehaps effect some positive type of change.

Slanting or omitting the stories can cause folks to discount/confuse that which is legitimate reporting and what is emotional non factual reactions.

Sinceraly,
Frans

ps: Involving more press and working diligently toward bringing them directly to the sites would greatly enhance (in my opinion) any progress...

pps: Dont mean to make this site a forum for political agendas no matter how important so wont post any more on this subject. Thanks
 
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There was an event here in BC a couple few years ago where a number of loggers went to the protesters camp , scrambled their gear, shoved a few people around and generally showed that they were pi$$ed off with folks who were trying to "do the right thing" by interrupting their lives and livelihood. I think both camps need to address their methodology. If you are chained to a logging truck, dont be too surprised when it starts to drive away after you have been given ample time to remove yourself from it.
 
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Whoa! You think the news/ media is honest? I have had too many experiences with media twisting news events around at several levels to ever again completely believe what I watch / read.

Dave
 
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Frans,

I'm not sure how my accounts have been "verified" to be inaccurate, maybe you could let me know.

There are ongoing attempts to get independent and neutral observers in the woods to witness what goes on, but those attempts are consistently thwarted by Pacific Lumber and the county. PL and the sheriffs also attempt to keep journalists away from the actions, so it's difficult to get the "real" story from the papers. Of course, all writers have their biases, so you shouldn't believe everything you read in the "news".

My account, which offers very few details because I was not there and because those arrested are still in jail, is based on info I gathered from witnesses who were not arrested. Based on many phone calls and direct conversations I've had with witnesses, it's clear that treesitters were removed by Eric Schatz and three other arborists, and that the trees were cut.

Remedy
 
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I think that a better term for the people who were hired to get the sitters out of the trees would be extractors rather than arborists. The work that the extractors are doing has nothing to do with arboriculture in this case. This could be looked at in light of Shigo's admonition that we clean up our language and "define our terms"

Tom
 
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ohhhhh, looks like Tom agreed with one thing I've said in the past. My term "Extractors".

I wish that the loggers could just leave one or a few of the biggest and grandest trees. But I see their problem with this, if they gave in to the protesters over those trees, it would just feed the protesters to continue even more. Kinda like US policy negotiating with terrorist, you don't do it. I guess that's how the logging company feels about it.

Another thought on sitters and logger conflicts: I would think that if sitters were in a tree they were protecting, the logging company could just girdle the tree at the base. That way the tree dies and there is no sense in trying to save it then. Then the sitters would come down and no extractors needed or conflict like that. Redwood is so rot resistant that the lumber would still be totally fine, at least I would think so, but I'm an East Coast Arborist. This thought of girdling a big tree seems somehow to be very wrong and mean to me, but it's just a thought I had. Did loggers ever try this?

There is one "close" to Champion tree in Maryland (located in a woods) that I am trying to buy. I'd like to buy a small section of land around it. That way I can give much needed care to it and help to extend it's life. It's a huge black oak with lots of dead limbs and crowded by shade tolerant species. I'd love to own it and trim out the dead, install lightning protection, fertilize, give it room to grow, and add aged wood chips to the soil. Then one day, maybe it'll be Marylands largest black oak. -I'm not all BAD. I just believe in people owning what they own.
 
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Tom,

I agree with you that they should be called "extractors" instead of "arborists." They are being identified as extractors in the lawsuits that have been filed against them. People around here often refer to them as "climbers" as in "Climber Dan" or "Climber Eric." "Extractor" is much more appropriate, thanks for bringing it up.

Remedy
 

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