adjustable friction saver

[treewhisperer1]

I bought an adjustable friction saver today, kind of like the rope guide but with a prussic instead of camming device. Anyways, my question is, is it possible to girth/wrap it around a lead that is absent of a good high crotch and retrieve it from the ground. When I say girth it meaning wrap it a couple times around the lead or spar, and is there a proper way to do this so you are not tightening it as you pull from the ground.

 

[NickfromWI]

Yes, wrap with the big ring on top and you'll be fine. I do it all the time.

love
nick

 

[treewhisperer1]

Thanks nick,
I new it was probably a matter of wrap in the right direction, thought I would ask before having to buy beer for getting it stuck at sixty-five feet. how about attaching a throw line? do you do this when retrieving the unit from the ground or just pull and keep it from smashing on pavement?

 

[Tom Dunlap]

When I've done that I've found that it jams up more times than not.

A better way is to adust the FC so that the big ring and pulley are a few inches apart on the stem. Then your rope goes through the pulley, along the trunk and through the big ring to your saddle. Your rope is the bit that chokes the FC to the trunk. When it's time to clear the FC you do it like normal.

Take a bit of time to make sure that your rope will wiggle the big ring out and slip through. Using a bark flake to "prop" the big ring works well.

 

[treewhisperer1]

I'll try that too thanks Tom.

Tom, I climbed with Harv T. this weekend in littleton.

 

[Jeremy9]

Just wondering if anyone knows were I can get the new ART ropegide. With the built in shockabsorber.

 

[NickfromWI]

if you are going to make your own, there are a myriad of shock absorbing lanyards you can easily incorporate into the climbing system. Check yates.

love
nick

 

[Tom Dunlap]

I've thought about the possiblity of using an anchor brake in place of a Screamer.

What do you think?

http://tinyurl.com/8gfuk

 

[TheTreeSpyder]

Lots easier to remotely install and stronger in basket postition too i think.

 

[Mark Chisholm]

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Just wondering if anyone knows were I can get the new ART ropegide. With the built in shockabsorber.

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Try Sherrill or Fresco. Also, if you have the 04 model, you can add this option very easily to your current RG.

 

[Treespotter]

Jon,

The best way to use it is to attach it to the leader without help of a branch underneath it to support it. And there is no need to wrap it several times around the stem to keep it in place.

Just the pulley thru the ring and do your thing.

 

[Treespotter]

Hà, I like the sound of that one....
Will put it in my signature /forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Mangoes]

Treespotter, I've been using my prussic based RG identical in layout as yours, differences being, the host line is Blue Streak and the prussic is 5/16 Warpspeed (samson)girthed to the large ring. Problem I have is on 2-3" dia. TIPs I get the pulley stuck on the ring 50% of the time. Any suggestions/observations?

 

[sizzler]

this might be a dumb question, but with a setup like in treespotter's picture, how would you retrieve that from the ground?

 

[Colin]

Guys, I have vids on both Friction savers and Rope Guides including retrieval.

Check it out.

http://gypoclimber.com/treehouse/viewtopic.php?t=2715

http://gypoclimber.com/treehouse/viewtopic.php?t=2726

 

[Treespotter]

You retrieve a FS like this by connecting a little 'harp' (a little connecting divice that is one milimeter wider than the clinbing rope) to the climbing rope (the side that goes from the pulley to the friction hitch).

So, if you unclip from your saddle, the end of the rope goes up into the tree, thru the pulley, gets stuck in the 'harp', the harp puls on the end of the FS, the pulley is pulled out of the ring and the whole kit tumbles down.

If you are happy with the kit you use and if your life means something to you, than you put a throwline on the end of the climbingline before the rope is pulled out of the tree.

In the attachment is a new version I made /forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
This is how it´s made:
1. Take a normal version friction saver (mine is a Cresto 130cm long).
2. Cut the big ring out with a hacksaw.
3. Put in a ART pulley.
4. Take a new big friction saver ring and install this to a little sling (30cm long).
5. Put the sling on the friction saver via a prussic.
Done.

The fun part of this FS is that it can be installed in the tree in the way you are used to do with a normal double ring FS. Work in the tree upwards and if you think "hé I don't need to climb all the way up" than you retrieve it with a little ball (and of course a trowline) on the end of your climbing line.
BUT, if you go all the way up, than you tie in with the flipline next to the FS. De-attach the climbing line from the FS and attach it in the way that is shown in the picture.

Climb safe.

 

[Mark Chisholm]

Nic /forum/images/graemlins/cool.gife idea Wolter!

 

[Treespotter]

Thanks Mark, by the way

HAPPY NEW YEEEAAAR to all at Tree Buzz too. /forum/images/graemlins/drunk.gif

 

[Mark Chisholm]

Same to you!

 

[Mangoes]

Nobody want's ta answer my question...... /forum/images/graemlins/ma.gif

Treespotter, did you switch over 'cause you had similar symptoms?