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Shadowscape said:
What the fuck do I know about felling trees you ask? Been doing it a hell of a lot longer than you. So take your foul mouth and shove it up your stupid newbe ass. You are just a poser, try to come across as a know it all. It isn't selling.
You're dangerous and foolish. So dry up and blow away. You can explain all you want, like you are some great expert, but what I see is some jerk I wouldn't hire. Try looking at who you are calling a clueless critic before you open that stupid mouth.
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Bring it... don't sing it.... let's see what you got....
 
Daniel said:
You're clueless....
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Possibly. It is true that I have never wished I had a pickup truck doing the pulling. I personally can't imagine a scenario where I would and it seems scary to me. I am pretty wimpy when it comes to those sort of things. I don't think pickup trucks were designed for that purpose and the gearing and ratios is all wrong. I personally won't go there. Maybe if your an expert pickup truck driver, I am not, and I don't know anyone that is.

If I look at your near miss and analyze it, the way you described it. the pickup truck is where the trouble was. Not moving fast enough or blinking or whatever was not at all the problem. To begin with, I dont want to be in a situation where if don't move fast enough I will die. I can count on myself not being as agile as I picture myself for those types of plans to work out. if a plan involves me moving fast it is not a good plan.

And for sure, if you can pull it with a pickup truck you can damn sure climb it.
 
My thoughts are, all these scenarios are just lazy man's work..so easy to get up there and remove what is necessary and and fell the peg. If not rent a crane and do your thing. We have tracked cranes here that can get most places just cut smaller. All you are doing is playing with fire, it is basically hack work. Nothing professional here all hail mary type stuff with high hopes. Good treework is looking for 99% success rate when committed to the backcut.
 
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treebing said:
I don't think pickup trucks were designed for that purpose and the gearing and ratios is all wrong.

And for sure, if you can pull it with a pickup truck you can damn sure climb it.
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The first sentence makes no sense.. truck wasn't designed to pull on a rope??? gear ratio all wrong???? complete nonsense.. This another perfect example of the total BS that anyone can spew out online... these are my critics??? calling pulling with a pickup "crude" and "a recipe for disaster"... Is there anyone else here that objects to using pickups to pull trees? I'll use the bucket truck or the chip truck when I need the extra weight... In the countless times I've used trucks and equipment to fall tree and throw tops, their use has been a recipe for success... But this is the bull shit and level of discourse that happens here at the buzz.. So ridiculous it's not even worth responding to.

Your second sentence on the other hand makes a valid point and is worth discussing... It sounds logical... one would think that's true.. but you would have had to see the tree.. when it comes to a climber going 100' up a rotted tulip that looks like it's ready to go any minute, logic goes out the window. I've been around a lot of tree climbers over the last 40 years, and fortunately some of the best that have ever walked the planet... Not too many of them would have gone up this tree.

But some might have and honestly once we strapped it and as long as everything was getting bombed you would think it was climbable. On the other hand, it took a lot of force with the pull line to get it free from the other tree. I was concerned that it cold fail just by pulling that hard against the lean. If I was running the job, I wouldn't have allowed a climber to go up that tree. You're better off walking away. Letting a crane do the job. SO academically yes, a climber could have climbed that tree, but practically.. NFW... nobody was going to climb that tree and no boss in his right mind would have allowed it.
 
Daniel said:
The first sentence makes no sense.. truck wasn't designed to pull on a rope??? gear ratio all wrong???? complete nonsense.. This another perfect example of the total BS that anyone can spew out online... these are my critics??? calling pulling with a pickup "crude" and "a recipe for disaster"... Is there anyone else here that objects to using pickups to pull trees? I'll use the bucket truck or the chip truck when I need the extra weight... In the countless times I've used trucks and equipment to fall tree and throw tops, their use has been a recipe for success... But this is the bull shit and level of discourse that happens here at the buzz.. So ridiculous it's not even worth responding to.

Your second sentence on the other hand makes a valid point and is worth discussing... It sounds logical... one would think that's true.. but you would have had to see the tree.. when it comes to a climber going 100' up a rotted tulip that looks like it's ready to go any minute, logic goes out the window. I've been around a lot of tree climbers over the last 40 years, and fortunately some of the best that have ever walked the planet... Not too many of them would have gone up this tree.

But some might have and honestly once we strapped it and as long as everything was getting bombed you would think it was climbable. On the other hand, it took a lot of force with the pull line to get it free from the other tree. I was concerned that it cold fail just by pulling that hard against the lean. If I was running the job, I wouldn't have allowed a climber to go up that tree. You're better off walking away. Letting a crane do the job. SO academically yes, a climber could have climbed that tree, but practically.. NFW... nobody was going to climb that tree and no boss in his right mind would have allowed it.
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Yet you responded, and are still here.
 
islandarb said:
My thoughts are, all these scenarios are just lazy man's work..so easy to get up there and remove what is necessary and and fell the peg. If not rent a crane and do your thing. We have tracked cranes here that can get most places just cut smaller. All you are doing is playing with fire, it is basically hack work. Nothing professional here all hail mary type stuff with high hopes. Good treework is looking for 99% success rare when committed to the backcut.
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When your life is on the line, 99% chance of success isn't good enough... Do that once a week for two years and the odds are stacking up against you. When it just comes to falling trees, 99% is low...
 
Doesn't it always seem to be BS name calling from the same decent, aka run of the mill, megalomaniac treeman... sorry, best treeman ever...remember, we have to respect self- identificaltion in 2023.
 
Let me change that to 100% or do not commit to the cut. I agree with you Daniel. But some of your choices are far reaching. One thing I really took from you was near balance point rigging, thought you took a huge set of heat for it. Think it was Dec 2012. That was a epic thread. What really rubs me wrong with you is your ego and outlandish practices that you try to TEACH. At best, showing what you do is fine but be prepared for hardball criticism. Lots of professionals around here who do treework with great success. Might not all be the gopro types. All cannot be gifted with those skills. I myself just prefer to keep focused with my tasks than mess around with gopros which just can add distraction and slow flow if you are not techie oriented.
 
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