4th generation slingshot tubing connectors...

I have never had a tubing break at the horns or snap back. In fact, I've been shooting horns up with both pieces of tubing with small tears at the horns. They still didn't break after hundreds of shots with them like that.

What I'm getting at is tubing breaks from at the horns is extremely unlikely and will always be preceded with indicators just like mine did - small tears. What finally broke was the tubing connection at the pouch.

Moss is the third case I have now heard of a potentially dangerous situation occuring shooting horns down. And notice that if he had been shooting horns up, his particular incident likely would not have happened. BTW, he doesn't have a Big Shot; he has a SideWinder.

But I don't want to encourage anyone to shoot horns up. If anyone asked me whether to shoot a Big Shot horns up or down, I'd say down.

But for me and my specific slingshot, based on my years of use shooting horns up, that's my preferred way.

But, it's really a moot point; my design for the BS release can be used either horns up or horns down.

Still, a pic is worth a 1000 words.

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Yep Ron, in that photo see how close the cube is under the head, horns down, almost guaranteed snag.

As I've mentioned in the past the way the tubing is attached to the pouch on a big shot the break is going to occur at the pouch not at the head. However... with your improved pouch attachment method, that may change :-)

I think it's no different safety wise horns up or down between Sidewinder and Big Shot, I pull the slings ten feet on my Sidewinder and throw a 10 oz bag up in the 135' range on an angled shot, forces are the same as Big Shot even though the tubing is smaller diameter.

There is a potential snag hazard horns up since the throwline comes up from the throwline pile over the horns and then down to the pouch, not a great hazard but yet another possibility. Horns down there's a clean path between the pouch and the throwline pile, as long as you don't position the slingshot head up over the pile.

Anyway, I chalk it up to another climber "style" difference, pros and cons on both sides, I'll keep throwing horns down. Mainly because as I mentioned earlier, on full sling extension the bag will take my chin off going up if I fire horns up.

Hey Ron! By the way, nice job on your latest pouch/tube connector :-)
-AJ
 
Moss,

I've shot horns up over a thousand times - likely David has too - there is no snag issue because the line runs over the head. I may have had a snag or two, but then you have too with the horns down.

I fully agree with why you shoot horns down; I don't want convince anyone to shoot a BS horns up - it's against the manufacturer's instructions. Still, again the pic of the pro.

OTOH, there's no way on earth I'd pull a SideWinder as far as you do. The only thing that keeps the pole from colapsing is a small, and I mean small, brass button imbedded in a plastic lever. I cringe sometimes at the lengths I pull to.

I think this touches on one's perception of 'safe'. I think horns up on MY slingshot is far safer than pulling ten feet on the pole.

And thanks on the tube connector. Actually, I was thinking about sending you a set; you'd sure give them a workout!
 
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Hey that's cool..if you got a lil extra time on your hands I would love to get together and see your protype try it out maybe...just a thought if your free and in town on the weekend!

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Hmmm, good idea, check your PMs.
 
Hey Guys!
Maybe everyone knows why the BS head changed its shape some years ago (where the "horns" got shorter). Unfortunately I do not have a clue, and most of the users I know do like the old head more.
They say it is better in both, power and accuracy.
I still have an old one and have no complaints :)
Can someone please enlighten me?
 
Hey TreeAccess, so you ask a really cool question and I hope that I can shine some light on that. For starters there are a few guys that absolutely love the old "Classic" style BigShot head and it was brought back for a while due to popular demand but has since been discontinued.

Now about the style chance, the head got changed several years back and reasoning was accuracy! It was really just that simple, apparently there were hundreds if not thousands of shots with several different heads and the one that preformed the best made it to production. (the one on sale now)

And for those wondering, the correct way is the horns facing AWAY, always inspect the tubing and pouch and for cracks, and the poles for any signs of stress BEFORE you try to hurl a 8-16oz throw weight 100+ feet in the air. =)

Also check out this video showcase about the BigShot.
 
Hi ReLeaf, and thanks!
Sounds like you're somehow involved in the BS development?!
What do you say about the loss of shooting power with the new head, dont you get this feedback from other users as well?
I personally have used 2 BS with the new head with which it is way more difficult to reach the same height than with the old one. Did the rubber change as well (material, length, diameter or whatever)?
 
You know those are some pretty good questions too and I will need to ask a few people. But personally I had not heard anything about losing power, again let me ask a few people and see what I can find out because now I'm curious. My understanding was that the change was made a while back and the overall outcome was better accuracy in the typical working range of the BigShot. As far as the material goes I would assume that the rubber has changed (just due to the amount of time the head has been on the market), but any intentional changes have come about because of user feedback to make them more durable and to be a bit more UV resistant. But I am not positive, but I will ask around and see what I hear. For example, I know the pouch has changed in the last few years but I head that the reasoning behind that was to keep the throw weights straighter faster. Apparently if you watch the throw weights in a super high shutter speed they leave the old pouch they are pretty wobbly and the new pouches help fix that for better accuracy when it comes to the range that the bulk of the shots are being made.

Good questions, I will see if I can get a bit more info.

But we really do value user feedback, so if you see something that you love (or hate) send it to info@sherrilltree.com

I am just a sales guy here at Sherrill, the one in the video. So I don't speak for ST, this is just my personal account and figured I would chime in.
 
Cool, would be great if you could post more infos here if you get them, so everyone can find it in the future (and now ;).
And are there ideas to change how the pouch (?) is attached to the rubber?
This weak point was the original reason for this topic...
 
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