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  1. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    No my solution is to fix the root of the problem, not just kill the product of the problem. Stronger family units, better morals, better adoption options, better support for single families (non government because they fail at everything), better education, better mentality, better work ethic...
  2. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    We are fighting for an actual life (baby). You are fighting for a hope/dream of a better life (mother), that is trying to avoid the natural consequences of having sex. The poorest most hard luck people in this world still deserve to live. They still deserve a chance to survive and better their...
  3. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    So what is your level of fevor, up to birth? At what point is an abortion killing a innocent human life for you? At what point would have it been OK for your life to been ended?
  4. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    Yes. That was how I was raised and what I believe is the responsible thing to do as humans. We are should not be animals that just go around procreating at every opportunity. To take it farther, I believe one should be married before having sex. Every action we take has a potential reaction to...
  5. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    So you are drawing the worst case scenario at every turn. What percentage of abortions do you think are from the above scenario? Are you OK with a stance of you can't get a abortion, unless in a case if rape? Because if you say they can get it whenever, the above scenario doesn't really matter...
  6. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    Understood. If you are interested, here is an article from the Medical Journal of Ethics I found when looking into this topic on 12 weeks vs 20 weeks. It was written by two people, one on each side of the abortion debate. I felt it was well written and covered things well. I don't know where I...
  7. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    No I actually don't blame democrats or republicans directly. I do blame them some indirectly for their policies that degrade morals, break down of families, fairness of the law, consequences for actions, helping people up vs giving them a handout, etc. Both sides have their faults, and I am...
  8. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    You don't feel that your past shapes who you are? That your years of childhood and growing doesnt make an impact on how you act/feel as an adult? So why not look over many years of a states/cities political values and direction. i wasn't trying to be bias, I was just listing the information.
  9. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    I didnt actually choose a random date. I pulled the information from wikipedia, and some of the states had cut off there due to rule changes etc...so it made it easier to add them up. Then I just stuck with that date to try and keep it consistent
  10. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    I specifically said that due to issues later in life, or autism etc. Babies can feel pain around 12 weeks according to a new study. Also at 8 weeks the baby exhibits reflex movement during invasive procedures. fifth week after conception, the first synapses begin forming in a fetus’s spinal...
  11. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    I am still looking into stats, but in general you are right they are R...but most of them have had way more D's in their backgorund than R's. City wise they are almost all D's and long term D's.
  12. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    Top ten cities and their mayors St. Louis, MO (Homicide rate 65) - D since 1949 (Since 1865 D - 19 , R - 10) New Orleans, LA (Homicide rate 56) - D since 1872 (Since 1865 D - 31 , R - 2) Detriot, MI (Homicide rate 48.6) - D since 1962 Richmond, VA (Homicide rate 38.8) - D since 1990 (Since...
  13. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    Ok here are the top ten states and their govenors Mississippi (Death rate 20.5) - R since 2004 (Since 1865 D - 26, R - 13) Louisiana (Death rate 19.9) - D since 2016 (Since 1865 D - 34, R - 10) Alabama (Death rate 14.2) - R since 2011 (Since 1868 D - 33, R - 7) Missouri (Death rate 14) - R...
  14. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    At what point, for you, does it go from a potential human to a human? Pain, heartbeat, movement, birth? To directly answer your question, yes I believe abortion is wrong in all cases after conception. In a rare case where the female's health is of concern, every effort should be made to save...
  15. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    Oh and BTW the responsibility goes both ways. As a male one should not be having sex unless you are ready to be a dad (financially, mentally etc). It is not all on the females, both sexes need educated on responsibilities
  16. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    Your the one that changed the wording not me. And what I said is technically true...just like sex = a baby. If someone is forced to spread their legs it is called raped and is punishable by law. If someone chooses to have sex (by their own rights) doesn't mean that they shouldn't have to deal...
  17. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    I'm still looking around and getting stats. But here is a homicide rate by state per 100,000 Homicide rate by city
  18. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    LOL another complete misquote. You as bad as the media. Show me where I said those exact words, in your quote.
  19. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    Actually I asked questions and I didn't make statements towards the gun deaths. I did say my beliefs on the obvious decay of society morals. I ask you to present some facts for discussion, like I have earlier (some that didn't even fully support my side). All you post was a news article that...
  20. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    So once again just going to attacks instead of debating the topics and presenting questions/facts. I don't think you have answered even one of my questions in thread. I have tried to answer most of yours, or expressed my side without personal attacks or degrading you with names etc. Show me the...

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