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  1. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    I understand the potential issues of being shot by the cops. And also the potential of a missing and hitting someone else, the legal issue with that. Getting shot by the police would suck, but in my mind an acceptable risk...and I would not want the cops to be punished in any way for it. Me...
  2. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    I hear you and agree with you to a point. I agree there isn't enough training etc to make them ready for a shooting scenario, etc. It would also make the teachers the first targets...but I rather have that happen then kids being the first target. I rather protect the kids from being the primary...
  3. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    Here is one, so far. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/parishioner-gunned-texas-church-shooter-hero/story%3Fid%3D67982047&ved=2ahUKEwiny-Shg9j4AhUiEFkFHSOvBXgQFnoECA4QAQ&usg=AOvVaw26pgcy8xnFaTuoWnXQSz3S
  4. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    I am pretty sure that are cases of this, that don't get picked up by mainstream media (doesn't fit their agenda). I will look. Do have examples where it added deaths, or didnt distract the shooter etc from taking more innocent lives. There is a reason why cops are supposed to rush the shooter...
  5. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    Can you, that are on the gun ban side honestly say that if you were a witness to a shooting, bombing, multiple stabbings would not wish you had possession of a gun to put a stop to it? A gun with more than just a couple bullets in case you miss, and then have to directly defend yourself? Or...
  6. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    Hypothetically, I don't see why one should have to wait minutes for cops to show up, and then another 75 mins for them to do something about a shooting.or any extreme violence. So who cares about the victims more? How many were killed in 9/11...if I recall correctly they just had box cutters...
  7. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    I laugh because if you got that out of what I said, you truly a special individual. That directly goes into me saying that you twisting my words, or adding your own thoughts to them I care about gun victims, I care about all victims. I care enough that I don't think it would be bad idea to...
  8. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    Never claimed I was a victim, and never whined. I've never attacked you directly or indirectly (claiming your words are dishonest, America Taliban, etc). I merely stated that the "left" is doing these tactics. If I truly felt I was a victim, I would either go away and/or report you every time...
  9. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    Yep there is my point exactly. Though I understand that this is a really personal topic for you. I actually prefer your take (your last comment) , because it is direct and more or less final. Compared to the under the table, word twisting, snide stuff. You aren't necessarily trying to make the...
  10. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    To be clear I said from a business perspective, in which I meant financial. I'm not saying that is the only reason, but it is a very good one $ wise. Carefule with that last paragraph. Sounds like you would be against forced masking and vaccination. Since it is no one's business what anyone...
  11. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    I also have to say reading the dissent is frustrating. It is almost like reading through this entire thread. I feel the "left" (Dissent side) is very condescending towards the "right" (majority), in their verbiage and attitude when talking about majority decision and almost about them...
  12. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    Quick question on businesses paying for for abortions and/or travel expensives. What is cheaper, paying for an abortion or paid maternity leave? Just a quick search says an abortion costs around $750, and recover period is 1-2 days until normal activity. Maternity leave the avg time off work...
  13. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    A quick comment on this, while I'm on lunch. As much as I feel abortion is murder, and you can't murder someone in another state and then be free once you cross state lines, I don't see this happening and passing legal muster (unless no abortion would become a federal law). Nor do I really think...
  14. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    161 pages into the Dobbs v Jackson docs, and into the dissent. I've copied/pasted a bunch of things, way too much to post on here. I am actually enjoying reading it, getting an insight into what each side was thinking and how they were perceiving things. I highly recommend reading through the...
  15. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    I'll will get back to you. I looked the above stuff up at lunch, and just finished reading the original Roe v Wade court doc. I also have a better understanding of what you are asking me about, after your last thread. I have evening plans, but hopefully get back to you tonight. I also want to...
  16. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    As to the role of Supreme Court judges. From WH.gov Although the Supreme Court may hear an appeal on any question of law provided it has jurisdiction, it usually does not hold trials. Instead, the Court’s task is to interpret the meaning of a law, to decide whether a law is relevant to a...
  17. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    I haven't read the recent Supreme Court brief on the abortion case yet. I do plan to. I have heard most of it being read, but I want to read it myself. But in general here is my take on it. This is a map of the general abortion laws in states prior to Roe v Wade. Does it look like abortion was...
  18. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    There are peer pressures in almost all aspects of life (religious ones and non-religious). No one can protect their kid from all peer pressures (heck it happens inside the house too). Plus not all peer pressure, or pressure from authority, is bad. One just has to raise their kids with the...
  19. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    Look up how an amendment can be added to the constitution. Looks up how the 13th amendment was added to the constitution. Look up, how federal laws are created. Judges are not supposed to make laws, just interpret the laws. Anyone has a right to do what they want with their body, to the...
  20. climbhightree

    Roe v Wade overturned

    Your entitled to your opinion, and I am entitled to mine. I have not been dishonest to my beliefs etc. I'm not sure where the cowardice comes in here. I'm surely not being a coward and bending in the face of your agression, to believe in what you believe. BTW did you leave yet? :aburrido:

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