I use the Zeppelin bend with 10 mm EzBend. The 10mm gets really stiff with use but the Zeppelin holds securely.
Here's a 450 lb test pull with the Zep, its a bit too long but be sure to watch at the 3:30 to see how easily it comes loose after being pulled to 450 lbs...
Oops, I forgot to update - got two more pulley vids up, segments 16 & 17.
These last two deal with climber referenced systems, specifically DdRT and RADS
Preface to the RADS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76l9KZ6XcME
The RADS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1p-xuZNq5g
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...Description number 1:
In RADS, (assuming zero friction and parallel lines, etc., etc.) a climber has a mass of 150# and is suspended in air as a separate person holds the input leg of line.
That is: 75# of input force (person holding the input leg with 75# of his or her own...
In the top figure of my original sketches, I tried to indicate that the pull line could vary, which obviously it can, and I alluded to that in some of my comments, but most of my comments were based on the understanding that the pull would be vertical - which I did not show in the original...
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Verrrry good Ron. Almost tempted to start an 'Ask Ron' thread right here. Would be great for us, and you'd probably grow to enjoy it given time.
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You may be giving me a more credit than I deserve. Probably would be fun, although I'm not sure I'd last long before I couldn't...
Reg,
Now that I know what set up you had in mind, here are some things to consider, although I'm not sure how significant they are because often in the field, we have to work with what we have. I've reproduced the configuration here for reference:
Keep in mind that this is not stable and will...
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The first one Ron, thanks. Ive used it to load logs in the past, but with no pulleys. Thanks Dave
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Ahhh, I thought the first one was what you described!
BTW, did it stay in balance? Of course without the pulleys it's a different situation. Friction would probably help with...
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However, if this were a parallel rope system as shown in the figure below, it would be a 3:1.
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Nice diagrams, Ron! I think the last one is the one Reg is talking about. Why do you describe it as 3:1?
It seems to me that if you pull down on the rope the plank...
As shown, both of the lower configurations are 3:1 systems. In reality the the lower left would be slightly more efficient because it uses one less pulley.
OTOH, no one would connect a stretcher like any of the three diagrams - they're not stable.
You're quick! I was working on that as you typed. Check out my modified post.
And bear in mind, I'm not sure that's what Reg is meaning, but I think it is. We'll see.
Reg,
Ahhhh, what I'm reading finally registered. Is this what you have in mind?
If so, I can analyze it; but it's complicated because it isn't a parallel rope system and some trig has to be used to calculate the theoretical MA. I just want to be sure I have the right configuration...
With no reference to any particular post(s) and just for reference, hopefully this will explain some of those ‘mathy’ and ‘theoretical’ issues that apply, and some things that have been referred to but not stated directly.
I’m going to start with a couple of simple definitions and then...
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...sometimes its the little things. What is DdRT v DRT?
Ron I'm sorry you felt the need to write all that other stuff down in response to my post, you really didn't have to, but I appreciate your time in doing so.
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Reg,
Hmmm, I'm not sure whether this is good or bad, but...
I think adding another term hinders more than helps. We have DRT, DdRT, now hybrid DdRT which is the very same thing as DdRT - that just takes us further away from the issues. E.g. doesn’t a hybrid pulley system have exactly the same issues as a non-hybrid system? Yes, and what’s more, the...
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...I've always had trouble with the use of the word "you" when refferring to a universal "one"
That is one of my big gripes with the english language I think, Or at least my use of it because I say "you" when I'm not really talking about you at all but a more general abstract "one"...
What a great experience that was. Although they are all good, I particularly liked the statement in the first one that explains how much easier it is per pulley. Pretty definitive!
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Oh, you got me wrong I'm on your side with this since the 9th grade.
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I am so sorry treebing , it's awful to get old and confused. I saw your post right after mine and didn't bother to notice the little detail.
Wait a minute, here's what was confusing, you said,
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The definition of MA has been around for a long time and is expressed as a ratio of the load to the force required to lift the load, specifically:
MA = load : force to lift the load
E.g.
I lift 200 lbs with a 100 lb force, what's the mathematical, i.e. theoretical mechanical advantage? Well...
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I think as long as you keep everything consistent. Than you can call it what you wish. I find seeing Rads as a 3:1, ddrt as a 2:1 and SRT as 1:1 easy to work with. Otherwise you have to find a new vocabulary. Srt as merely static and ddrt as a redirected 1:1 is complicated because it...
Thanks Dave.
The MA of the RADS is confusing - I know - as I stated previously, a few years back I adamately argued that the RADS was a 2:1 period, but the math just wouldn't support a RADS as 2:1 climber referenced, and then I saw the physical reason why.
I think I need to do a follow up vid...