Bendroctanus
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I’ll be an idiot, just for the halibutt.
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Bendroctanus
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If you watch closely you can see that the massive stub center punched the middle crib log causing the log to go both airborne and to start rotating towards the fence. Like I said earlier, the cribs logs encouraged this log to do exactly what it did.
Any idiot can also see that the road is crowned in the center (as it should be). This means the side of the road you are dropping this spar on is sloping towards the fence line. Duh.
Add in the lack of a butt hitch and I can count at least 2-3 lapses in judgment on this one cut alone. Hell, even this idiot knew what was gonna happen long before the conclusion of the vid. It was as plain as day as to what was about to unfold.
I am curious why you left that giant stub. I’m also curious why you didn’t just go ahead and chunk this thing down properly and get payed for your time. Lazy, in a hurry, brain fog, wacky tobaccy? What gives bro?
Any idiot can also see that the road is crowned in the center (as it should be). This means the side of the road you are dropping this spar on is sloping towards the fence line. Duh.
Add in the lack of a butt hitch and I can count at least 2-3 lapses in judgment on this one cut alone. Hell, even this idiot knew what was gonna happen long before the conclusion of the vid. It was as plain as day as to what was about to unfold.
I am curious why you left that giant stub. I’m also curious why you didn’t just go ahead and chunk this thing down properly and get payed for your time. Lazy, in a hurry, brain fog, wacky tobaccy? What gives bro?
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Bendroctanus
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Bendro for the win. Without the cribbing this log would have punched holes in the road and simply sat down. Since the outcome in the vid was a bit of a clown show, and punching holes in the road would probably have been unacceptable we are left with the notion that there were far better ways to skin this cat.
So, preacher, you preached to me how many times you've preached to all.... NOT TO LEAVE STUBS.
Yet, you left a huge stub and posted a vid to share about it. Meanwhile, you're still preaching.
Who's the idiot now, Mr. Preacher?
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evo
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That’s just idiotic, idiot
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Daniel
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Bendroctanus
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Yep, that’s what you said.
Daniel
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You've out if your mind... That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
That stub was not pointing straight down. It was angled about 45 degrees...
The harder it hit the road, the more the rotation. The fact there was no damage to the road proves the padding log reduced the impact and therefore the resulting rotation...
You two have lost touch with reality. I have no respect for anyone that thinks your supposition is even worth considering. NFW. A perfect example of the garbage posted online.. more often found on FB than TB....
But here it is... and this is why I couldn't care less what any of you say...
evo
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And we are at this stage in the conversation..
next maybe a few more last words and then abandon the topic.
After that give it a week or two and repeat..
see post #47
@Daniel how are you hanging with the testosterone? Any side effects?
next maybe a few more last words and then abandon the topic.
After that give it a week or two and repeat..
see post #47
@Daniel how are you hanging with the testosterone? Any side effects?
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Hey Murphy, you've been cutting trees for a long time. How many more years do you think you have in it? What is your plan for after tree work? Will you try to sell your business or just let it go? It seems like you don't have employees, is that correct?
But the stub didn’t hit the road on impact, did it? Nope. It hit the center crib log and instantly went airborne and started rotating. The crib logs encouraged the bounce, created the rotation, and also prevented any of those massive stubs you left from digging in and stopping this log from rolling into the fence.
And I do find it amazing that the man who orchestrated this error filled shit show is accusing others of being idiots.
Bendroctanus
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Only a Sith deals in absolutes…
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Daniel
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Yep, this is another GREAT example of why not to leave stubs.... Something you understand that I have been preaching for years...
NO STUBS
NO STUBS
NO STUBS
over and over again .
leaving that stub was a mistake... 100 percent, and the most valid and valuable criticism
So now I will tell you why I left that stub.
This job was done on Memorial Day. That's normally a very busy road and required 2 flag men. I hate working on busy streets. I haven't had 2 flagmen on a job in years... even with that I didn't want to deal with heavy traffic, thus working on the holiday. Also my my best rope man is only available on weekends and holidays.
To complicate matters, the forecast was calling for thunderstorm mid to late morning. And rain in the afternoon.
I had used that stub to set the rings as a mid level redirect so the porty stays on the back of the bucket and there is no concern for side loading the rigging point. So I didn't give consideration to removing it, or when I was going to remove it because it was in use...
It just started raining as I was finishing the top. I was concerned it was going to open up into a downpour and wanted to get the street open so I was in a hurry and forgot to even pull the rings.
I came down and lifted the outriggers and moved the truck without looking at the tree to assess the fall. THAT WAS THE MISTAKE...
I had a 462 in the bucket and should have cut the stub before I came down. It would have only taken an extra minute or two. It could have been bombed.
Once I had the truck moved and street open, I realized the problem and had to make a judgment... can the stick be dropped without hurting the fence? I would have had to reset the bucket otherwise
I looked at the drop zone and decided to angle the gun across the street as much as I felt comfortable with leaving plenty of clearance for the wires across the street...
In retrospect there was plenty more room to gun it further across the street, so that was a second mistake.
The padding logs on the other hand were NOT a mistake. I had even considered using a perpendicular log under one end of the padding log to create an inclined plane sliding away from the fence...
Honestly though, I didn't expect the log to roll that hard and fast. It scared me.
Ultimately, I looked at the scenario and made the call. No damage so I got away with it.
If I had to do it over again I would not have made that cut. So there are lots of lessons to be learned
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Bendroctanus
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Your saying so would suggest otherwise.
Daniel
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The difference between me and you is that I know what I'm talking about.
Here's a couple still screen shots if the fall. The stub is clearly past the padding log and impacts directly on the blacktop.
keep talking crap.. and I'll keep calling you an idiot. That's a fair deal.
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Daniel
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There were no other "massive stubs"..
certainly nothing that would have stopped the rolll.
By the time the big stub rolled to hit the ground, the falling log was off the padding logs
