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Instead of incorporating the tether eyes with my hitch, I used an ISC Mighty Mouse biner to clip the tether to the middle hole by capturing an eye on either side of the pulley on the flat top of the biner.
Do you happen to have a photo of this? I was spurred on to borrow a rope wrench setup last week after reading some of these threads. I went from VT to HH2 and RR and kinda missed the rope wrench phase. I thought the removal of the wrench to switch to DRT was really clumsy as it was set up and was imagining something like you just described being advantageous...
 
Do you happen to have a photo of this? I was spurred on to borrow a rope wrench setup last week after reading some of these threads. I went from VT to HH2 and RR and kinda missed the rope wrench phase. I thought the removal of the wrench to switch to DRT was really clumsy as it was set up and was imagining something like you just described being advantageous...
Here’s a rough frame from some video footage. The biner is usually flipped downward toward the bridge. This segment was to demonstrate something else entirely. I use the biner as my ascent tending point, then fold it toward the bridge once working. It makes switching systems much easier.

Somehow I drew on this frame, so excuse the green line.
 

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Right now I mainly run the rrp for srs, as it’s simpler for for switching between mrs and srs, which happens a lot on crane jobs. Before I got it, I used a hitch climber pulley, 10mm 30” hitch (tied VT), and kept my wrench on my saddle so I could switch between srs and mrs. Instead of incorporating the tether eyes with my hitch, I used an ISC Mighty Mouse biner to clip the tether to the middle hole by capturing an eye on either side of the pulley on the flat top of the biner. The flat section kept the tether eyes from traveling down the sides of the biner during ascent.

For coming back to the trunk, you can use your rope tail with a Blake’s as a second system or pull a bight below your system, wrap it around a nearby stem, and hand lower yourself with that bight. There are several other ways to get back to the trunk, and some the others replying to this thread have some smart ways to do it. The two I shared are simple, but not always ideal depending on the situation.

@rope-a-dope likes to use a shorter, second system for maximum maneuverability. He should have some good tips.
See my personal set up for srs, is in the making. Only used a rope logic tether, the fusion I just got which right now I’m not to fond of. And the RRP which I love. Just getting used to moving around the tree with it compared to a knot. But I run it on my xstatic 200ft as an access line with the RRP or the fusion whatever I feel that day. Then have a dmm classic rope bag that I have 150ft tachyon surge in with the zag already attached as a bomb bag.
Never did crane work but a guy I work with has before and it sounds legit. Watch crane picks on YouTube all the time looks fun as heck being dropped in and having to read tension in different ways. But I’ll get off line work and be doing better things. I can’t wait for this class next month to open my eyes a little wider with srs and get some exposure to some true arborists and people with some passion.
 
The fusion does seem to be quite niche. I think it does a great job for what it is, but not versatile enough for me.

The rrp loves xstatic, it seems. A friend just sold me his 200’ hank, and I can’t get enough of that combo.

What class are you taking? Did you already mention it?
 
I wonder what would happen to this industry if those with a well established skill and knowledge base just stopped passing on both? I wonder what would happen if thoses with both the skill and knowledge base stopped thinking, tinkering, and trying to moving this industry forward? I wonder if devices like the HH2, Saka, Rope Runner, Akimbo, Uni, Wrench, ect came from the minds of persons with very little actual experience operating at heights?

And the notion that old-timers somehow "fear change and fear having their weaknesses exposed"? Tell that to the SCORES of highly experienced climbers here who have incorporated the very latest tools/techniques into their daily climbing lives... pure rubbish.

Imagine if a highly experienced/expert climber like @swingdude (uses a RR by the way) had been there to assist the OP as he was experimenting with the RR Pro? Do you think Swing would have allowed the OP to do something that could have brought great harm to himself? Nope. That is how the "cycle has continued" since we left the cave, and has in fact been a very important part of the evolutionary process of both man and beast.

The discussion I was referencing was actually about another industry which is very much in the stone age despite mountains of modern research. I wasn't referencing the membership of this site or even our industry, although there are many parallels. Change is hard for most folks and it doesn't get easier with age. Yes I'm generalizing but this isn't exacly a bold claim. Every generation will have it's good, bad and a previous generation bitching about them. The SCORES of veterans on this site that embrace the latest and greatest are very much the minority within the industry. The average vet isn't cruising treebuzz every night.

Heck, the average tree climber wouldn't even know what half of the devices you listed were.
The devices you listed are part of a very recent trend, we're finally poking our heads out of the cave but we're still cavemen.
 
Inquisitive questioning is not a generational attribute but an individual one.
True, everyone is different, but I believe many of the social nuances that existed before have been dropped by the younger generations. Partly due to a shift in parenting style but mainly due to the influence of social media.
 
I am supposed to help Donny out with that class but a major serious family issue may keep me from it. I have been stoked about the class since last fall when we first talked about it. I havent talked to Donnyin about a week but last time I did the class was about full. Keeping my fingers crossed I can still make it. If I can't, Thatone, have a great time.
 
I am supposed to help Donny out with that class but a major serious family issue may keep me from it. I have been stoked about the class since last fall when we first talked about it. I havent talked to Donnyin about a week but last time I did the class was about full. Keeping my fingers crossed I can still make it. If I can't, Thatone, have a great time.
Man, I’m sorry to hear that. I hope everything gets better with your situation and I am able to see you there to make some new friends, and gain your wisdom.
 
The discussion I was referencing was actually about another industry which is very much in the stone age despite mountains of modern research. I wasn't referencing the membership of this site or even our industry, although there are many parallels. Change is hard for most folks and it doesn't get easier with age. Yes I'm generalizing but this isn't exacly a bold claim. Every generation will have it's good, bad and a previous generation bitching about them. The SCORES of veterans on this site that embrace the latest and greatest are very much the minority within the industry. The average vet isn't cruising treebuzz every night.

Heck, the average tree climber wouldn't even know what half of the devices you listed were.
The devices you listed are part of a very recent trend, we're finally poking our heads out of the cave but we're still cavemen.
Many of the devices I listed are available at any decent arborist supply store (excluding the BDB). Hell I was at janky little local small engine/saw shop this weekend and they had Zigzag's, footies, and Haas knee ascenders hanging on the wall behind the front counter...I also think you would be hard pressed to find a legit outfit that isn't using at least one of those devices on a regular basis....I believe more of us have left the cave, are walking upright, and cooking with fire than you think.
 
True, everyone is different, but I believe many of the social nuances that existed before have been dropped by the younger generations. Partly due to a shift in parenting style but mainly due to the influence of social media.

I totally agree with your above statements. What I don't agree with is that the social changes have resulted in a generation that has become more inquisitive than previous generations. Most will follow, only a few will deviate through careful self guidance.

To the op and anyone else that keep trying different tools and systems, what is your goal? As I have stated many times, basically all the tools available work so well that any perceived advantages are totally overshadowed by the competence and skill of the user. If you already have and are using one of these, your greatest gains will be in mastering it rather than chasing some mythical 'best' in the hopes of becoming a better climber, if per chance, that is your goal.
 
Man, I’m sorry to hear that. I hope everything gets better with your situation and I am able to see you there to make some new friends, and gain your wisdom.
In person mentorship with an experienced expert.... Priceless...

Enjoy the class and please come back and hip us to any secrets, tips, tricks, and cool shit you learn.....Thats what this place is all about.
 
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To the op and anyone else that keep trying different tools and systems, what is your goal? As I have stated many times, basically all the tools available work so well that any perceived advantages are totally overshadowed by the competence and skill of the user. If you already have and are using one of these, your greatest gains will be in mastering it rather than chasing some mythical 'best' in the hopes of becoming a better climber.
The best tidbit of wisdom posted around here in a long time... Thanks DSMc
 
I totally agree with your above statements. What I don't agree with is that the social changes have resulted in a generation that has become more inquisitive than previous generations. Most will follow, only a few will deviate through careful self guidance.

To the op and anyone else that keep trying different tools and systems, what is your goal? As I have stated many times, basically all the tools available work so well that any perceived advantages are totally overshadowed by the competence and skill of the user. If you already have and are using one of these, your greatest gains will be in mastering it rather than chasing some mythical 'best' in the hopes of becoming a better climber.
My goals aren’t to keep switching between any devices. My goal is to have the knowledge and know how of the devices that I chose so if someone asks me about it I can give a good answer and have some sort of aspect of what I was talking about. I picked 2 mechanical when I started, that I did intensive research on and thankfully a guy I worked with had a zag and was able to do hands on with it. When I went to mechanicals my goal for using them was to see what it was all about. I was climbing on a hitch for 9 months at that time and was looking at the zag and got it. To use for drt. Used it and fell in love with it and been slowly mastering it. Then got introduced to srs and seen the RRP and watched Kevin on YouTube using it and started reading everything I could on the RRP because I seen how fluently he moved around the entire tree. So my goals were strictly on improving my movement in the tree. Which later I found out by coming to this forum that there are different knots and things you can do to make it like a mechanical.
 
In person mentorship with an experienced expert.... Priceless...

Enjoy the class and please come back and hip us to any secrets, tips, tricks, and cool shit you learn.....Thats what this place is all about.
For sure! No doubt will I come here to chat with you guys. Been interesting so far why stop now.
 
... Then got introduced to srs and seen the RRP and watched Kevin on YouTube using it and started reading everything I could on the RRP because I seen how fluently he moved around the entire tree. So my goals were strictly on improving my movement in the tree...

So your assumption was the RRP was somehow contributing to his climbing abilities?
 
Do yourself a favor and start playing with a Michoacán/Petrocan...
What is this petrocan witch craft you speak of? I’d like to give it a go perhaps a description of how to tie it? I’ve been rope walking with a distel/wrench/hitch climber just to tie in then switching back to double (not competent enough to work off single still want deeper roots with double) but it’s been fucking liberating getting up there srs luckily have a solid mentor/foreman in the field.
 
What is this petrocan witch craft you speak of? I’d like to give it a go perhaps a description of how to tie it? I’ve been rope walking with a distel/wrench/hitch climber just to tie in then switching back to double (not competent enough to work off single still want deeper roots with double) but it’s been fucking liberating getting up there srs luckily have a solid mentor/foreman in the field.
A Petro is a Micho turned 180 degrees, meaning the down legs on the Petro are on the caribiner side of the climbing line. With the right rope/hitch combo it can be right up a mechanicals ass in quickness and ease of tending, but bring the sweetness.

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