Jehinten
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I remember struggling to get a stock petzl bridge with a sewn eye into my rook. 1/2" 16 stand with no splice fits easily
I do not remember what diameter the petzl bridge is
What’s your favourite lanyard set up
- Thread starter BrettoDalton
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I do not remember what diameter the petzl bridge is
You can pass up to 11mm sewn eyes... It's harder when their new but I can do it with sterling tri-tech
I used to use NE Maxim 5.5mm tech cord tied in a loose prusik for this too
I've tried this out for a little bit before
Was getting dark, but got a pic.
I see what you’re saying, it wants to lay sideways compared to biner and normal micro pulley but seems to work fine.
I was just playing around with it since I got 2 new Rooks for 60$ on eBay. not much advantage in performance to using it like this. Can use an oval biner to connect the pulley to D instead of HMS with scaffolds. HMS isn’t totally necessary either I guess but helps with the clutter.
I’ll play with it some more with 8mm beeline and some kind of 11mm but I got lanyard adjusters up the wazoo already.
I got a feeling the rubber lining on the plate holes will wear out from contact with the cordage. It’s not a lot of friction or movement but the cord probably moves or rotates a little bit when loading and unloading and it’s only rubber.
climbstihl
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You could also use it like this, it wouldn't rotate the pulley up like that. 
Joeybagodonuts
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Yes, that's actually the exact scenario i encountered, one of Petzl's Bridges. I was always under the impression it was 10mm.
GTFO! You got TriTech to pass!?!? Damn! I ended up cutting an eye off of mine to get it through!! Maybe i didn't try hard enough.. i probably should have anchored off & pulled like a mad man..
Two side notes regarding lanyards -
1. Does anyone have a good source for industrial sewing that will sew an eye on a USED lanyard?
2. Has anyone elses experienced extreme milking on their CE-Lanyards/HipstarFlexs'?? My 10 meter probably has 2-1/2 extra feet of cover trapped in it!! It makes the hitch cord bind up constantly. Obviously I'm aware two ends being terminated can lead to this, but it's as if there was already a TON of cover slack in this section of spool to begin with & no one took the time to milk it before sewing. I am an avid splicer so I'm aware of what's normal regarding cover slack & whatnot, but this is just crazy, i can barley use the last 7-10ft of the lanyard. This is the second one too, first did the same thing as well... I just expect more than this considering the cost & i don't want to give up the eye. I want to cut, milk & have it re-sewn, hence my first question.
Joeybagodonuts
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Climbstihl..
Is that a phlotich? It seems as though a Phlotich would allow this method the most room & possibly still be able to hook a second biner back into it. However, if doing so with a second in the big hole would that create a scenario where your crushing/pinching the cordage between plate hole & biner? Like a Press Break ?
climbstihl
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Yes, that's a Phlotich. That could be a possibility. I think the loading would be better with the hitchclimber, but I didn't want to take that off my lanyard just to quickly show that setup.
Joeybagodonuts
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As much as i hate knots vs sewn terminations, im pleasantly surprised at how much better you can dial these hitch cords in using methods like these... I've always known, but have always been to stubborn to compromise with the bulk..
Everything is instant with it snugged up close to the pulley like that... bulk & tails are still there vs sewn (which will always bug me), but the pros are definitely there.
Everything is instant with it snugged up close to the pulley like that... bulk & tails are still there vs sewn (which will always bug me), but the pros are definitely there.
BeesandTrees
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What about a 2 in 1 lanyard with 2 Positioners? Anyone using this and have a pic if so? Currently using the Positioner and 11.8 rope, love it. I've used someone else's set up with the 2 Positioners as a 2 in 1/double lanyard, seemed pretty slick....
JTree
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- East Texas
Dude, I'd be so pissed if I bought a premade lanyard only to find that someone didn't premilk the line before sewing the splices. Like fighting mad. We both know that you are paying for the splicing labor almost as much ad the materials when you buy a premade lanyard.
Just splice your own replacement rope. Can't trust anyone to do anything nowadays. For peat's sake, I change my own oil because apparently I can't even trust the locals do do even that right.
Joeybagodonuts
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Hahahaha.. Yeah.. it's pretty fucking irritating.. I can't even get a response out of Teufelberger either..
I would splice my own, but for 1. It's the principle. 2. I want a Stiff rugged kern with two eyes (can't hand splice that).
My second let down was the actual 11.5 cordage itself. I had gotten my hands on some of the new 12.5 hipstar cordage & really really liked it as a lanyard, nice & stiff & pretty rugged. They are calling both the 11.5 & the 12.5 "Sirius" cordage, i didn't want to lug around 10m of 12.5 so i went with the 11.5 assuming it would be the same, just smaller.. Come to find out, it not even the same cordage, on the 11.5 its a Sirius style cover (4strand carrier) over a parallel core, instead of your stiffer/burlier typical 2 stand carrier thats like a KM3 with the 12.5 version. I should have known better after years of seeing pictures of the 11.5 CE/Hipstar, just never in person. I stupidly assumed that once i had seen the 12.5 in person, the 11.5 would be identical because they were calling it by the same name. Had i realized before hand, i probably would have passed knowing that the Sirius 4 strand carrier design will milk like a son of a bitch vs a legit KM3 style cover... Regardless, again, you assume these things are at the very least milked pretty damn good before terminating.. i assumed wrong..
I should just get a 11mm km3/htp lanyard sewn up, but I'm just so tired of spending $$ on this shit.
JTree
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Yeah....hand splicing kern can be done on some cords, but the bury is so long and stiff that there's no way I'd do it for a lanyard. I understand regarding the principle, tho.
If it makes you feel any better, I spurred my lanyard today. So there's that Time to splice up another.
If it makes you feel any better, I spurred my lanyard today. So there's that Time to splice up another.
evo
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12’ 1/2” spliced climbing line with a vt and hitch climber. 25-30’ same as above if I think I’d want to use it as a small climbing line. Think I have a 50’ that comes out rarely.
The 16’ Yale steel core
The 16’ Yale steel core
Joeybagodonuts
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I think i gave it a shot a few weeks back but didn't have the patience. I was trying it on 11mm KM3. Actually, i think i was trying to use Gliestien Ropes twisted parallel core instruction, it may or may not have been similar.... Or even applicable for that matter.. as soon as i saw how tight things were with just half the core buried, i didn't even bother with the cover & gave up for the time being.. I'll give the Marlow a shot eventually.
robinia
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@Tom Dunlap , didn't you have a lanyard with E&E eyes spliced onto a ISC swivel captive eye biner? The lanyard passed through the captive eye portion? I keep thinking of building that. It seemed like a really cool minimalist design.
