more fun with knucklebooms

Give me your best shot. What you think?
 

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Is this like the Palifinger as far as the using a electronic controlled diverter valve to switch from a jib function to a grapple saw function? I know this is how it done in the past, wasn't sure if they changed that or not.
 
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Ok on a serious note, I have never been so scared in my life. What a nerve racking experience.

First of all, got a call last night about a tree that fell on a house and truck. They needed it done right then. I went. Only took me about 45 minutes and I picked the tree up whole, but had two outriggers a foot off the ground. I pulled the load closer and all was well.

When I started my day today I couldn’t get past that experience easily. Not long into my day I had a climber at height over a hundred feet from the pin. When he started cutting that top, all I could think about was last night and whether or not my truck was about to flip over. Could I react fast enough? Anyway obviously it went well, but it was absolutely terrifying in the moment.

To all you crane and knuckle boom operators out there; I tip my hat to you. I understand why your trucks don’t flip, your humongous balls are holding them down.
 
It was really great to run a crane with a load sensor on it for a while. As far as learning to guess what tree parts weigh, no better teacher. That was a long time ago and though I have climbed for quite a few crane jobs since then, I have not operated a crane in a long time. I have heard that knuckle boom cranes don't have load sensors. I also find it impressive that your new crane is rated for over 1000 lbs straight out horizontal at full extension. If it was mine, I would find something that wieghs close to the max at full extension and lift it in an open lot. Move it around and see how the machine feels. Then maybe make a stack of logs you believe to be around 10,000 lbs and lift that at the longest extension its rated to lift it at. You never want a surprise when shit is on the line and you are counting on that machine to preserve life and property.
 
Ok on a serious note, I have never been so scared in my life. What a nerve racking experience.

First of all, got a call last night about a tree that fell on a house and truck. They needed it done right then. I went. Only took me about 45 minutes and I picked the tree up whole, but had two outriggers a foot off the ground. I pulled the load closer and all was well.

When I started my day today I couldn’t get past that experience easily. Not long into my day I had a climber at height over a hundred feet from the pin. When he started cutting that top, all I could think about was last night and whether or not my truck was about to flip over. Could I react fast enough? Anyway obviously it went well, but it was absolutely terrifying in the moment.

To all you crane and knuckle boom operators out there; I tip my hat to you. I understand why your trucks don’t flip, your humongous balls are holding them down.
Take smaller pieces, I’ll let @Steve Connally or @SJ_Treeguy answer the outrigger lifting part.
 
Take smaller pieces, I’ll let @Steve Connally or @SJ_Treeguy answer the outrigger lifting part.

The tech they sent me(who was an awesome guy), showed me a trick with letting the air out of my suspension after putting my outriggers out but not down. It allowed me the extra lift I was needing. Turns out, my issue was just lack of ground pressure. He wasn’t with me at 9 o’clock at night when I was doing my emergency job.

Headed out now to do my first scheduled paid jobs today. I’ll try to get some video
 
The tech they sent me(who was an awesome guy), showed me a trick with letting the air out of my suspension after putting my outriggers out but not down. It allowed me the extra lift I was needing. Turns out, my issue was just lack of ground pressure. He wasn’t with me at 9 o’clock at night when I was doing my emergency job.

Headed out now to do my first scheduled paid jobs today. I’ll try to get some video
Okay stop what you're doing and take your truck out to your woodlot, and start lifting small pieces then build up to larger pieces, and see where your limit is on your machine. The last thing you want to is Flip Your Truck. You'll get the hang of it. Also keep in mind on a knuckle boom you WANT all tires on the ground unlike a stick boom
 
Also if possible i try to work over the back if lifting heavy..
Was your Outriggers fully extended? Were you using matting underneath them? They can sink once you apply weight or just by simply running you boom fully extended horizontally. The side that I'm working off of I usually double up the matting or plywood's compared to the other side.
 
Also if possible i try to work over the back if lifting heavy..
Was your Outriggers fully extended? Were you using matting underneath them? They can sink once you apply weight or just by simply running you boom fully extended horizontally. The side that I'm working off of I usually double up the matting or plywood's compared to the other side.
Sounds like a great exercise for the COLON!!!!
 
Sometimes you have push the limits to find out what the limits are...glad you didn't go turtle... How heavy do you figure the tree was and what were you good for? I would've thought that a kb that large capable of so much would have some sort of stabilizer interlock setup... On a side note, you're just starting out and working the new truck at basically max radius?! May want to ease back on the reins a tad bit cowboy.
 
Yeah I can say palfinger says 6" off the load side is ok with the outriggers but I try to avoid that at all costs. You should never be running that truck without dropping the air suspension. It makes it so unstable as the bogs transfer air around to try to keep things even. I've forgotten to do it once or twice but quickly recognized it as I stand on the deck to work. Truck was moving all over the place with just the boom weight. I have a ritual. PTO, outriggers out, pads down. Drop the air and then set the outriggers. I barely make the chassis move when I make pad contact. I just close the gap between the top of the beam and the housing plus a little bump. I'm really surprised they didn't tell you to always drop the chassis air. Anyway, full capacity and radius picks is pretty ballsy for week 1. I second the notion to back way off until you feel like spreading your wings a little more. Also what I said on your thread about a load cell. My opinion is the knucklebone manufacturers are making a mistake by not putting a numeric load reading on the remotes. I never operate mine without the load cell, ever!! Thats just me, I know plenty or more experienced guys do. All it took was a 3k pine log to come off like a rocket. I'm lucky it didn't land in the climbers lap.
 

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