Yale 11.7’s

Ok so it is 1 3/16" laid flat. I slip it on and use a reg lighter to shrink it....works mint. 3cm laid flat. Slides right on and is faily snug. Then heat tightens it right up. 2019-08-10 21.52.14.webp2019-08-10 21.50.10.webp
 
This won’t help anybody but my local hardware store sells this marine grade shrink tube with waterproof glue inside. This shit hardens up like a rock. They only sell it in precut 3 or 4” lengths
 
This won’t help anybody but my local hardware store sells this marine grade shrink tube with waterproof glue inside. This shit hardens up like a rock. They only sell it in precut 3 or 4” lengths
Ya nuisance get me some....want my address....ya mail it yet?
 
This is going back to Blake’s and just starting eye to eye prussic cords. I found the cover way too smooth and the rope would square under my body weight.
I use yale’s 11.7 now and the cover seems to be different

I climbed on poison Hivy for the longest time and it stayed round when loaded. I needed a new longer rope, love the Yale 11.7, so went with blue moon because of a banger sale. I notice it squares up when I load it with my weight. It works but I'm not thrilled with it. Next time I will stick with original poison ivy/hivy. Wouldn't mind having that calamine though.
 
I thought I remembered one of them was all polyester and one had a nylon core. Just checked out Yale's website and its blue moon that is all polyester and all the poison ivy stripey type colors have a nylon core.

 
I thought I remembered one of them was all polyester and one had a nylon core. Just checked out Yale's website and its blue moon that is all polyester and all the poison ivy stripey type colors have a nylon core.


The nylon one should have different stretch numbers then, right?
 
I've never used blue moon but...

Sherrilltree says poison ivy elongation is 1.8% @ 540 lbs

Wesspur says blue moon is 1.4% elongation at 10% ABS and that ABS is 6400 lbs.

Funny neither website has both ropes.
 
I believe when Yale made poison ivy it was poly cover and poly core

I have the Yale and Samson versions, and I can't tell a difference. Perhaps - perhaps - the jacket feels slightly more like a Samson jacket (a la Vortex, Velocity - pliable, soft, etc.). BUT, it's so slight that it could be my imagination, and I certainly wouldn't bet anything of value on that assertion.

However, side-by-side, Yale vs. Samson, they feel indistinguishable by climbing feel. I've also had much more experienced climbers than myself say the same thing, who've climbed on various flavors of PI for many years.

That's why I'm kind of surprised if those elongation numbers reflect reality - 1.8% @ 540lbs vs. 1.4% @ 640lbs is literally a difference of 50% stretch, when you convert the elongation numbers to the same weight (that is, 1.4% @ 640lbs = 1.18% @ 540lbs, which is ~50% less stretch than the other line, simplistically speaking, assuming a linear elongation vs. weight curve).
 
I have the Yale and Samson versions, and I can't tell a difference. Perhaps - perhaps - the jacket feels slightly more like a Samson jacket (a la Vortex, Velocity - pliable, soft, etc.). BUT, it's so slight that it could be my imagination, and I certainly wouldn't bet anything of value on that assertion.

However, side-by-side, Yale vs. Samson, they feel indistinguishable by climbing feel. I've also had much more experienced climbers than myself say the same thing, who've climbed on various flavors of PI for many years.

That's why I'm kind of surprised if those elongation numbers reflect reality - 1.8% @ 540lbs vs. 1.4% @ 640lbs is literally a difference of 50% stretch, when you convert the elongation numbers to the same weight (that is, 1.4% @ 640lbs = 1.18% @ 540lbs, which is ~50% less stretch than the other line, simplistically speaking, assuming a linear elongation vs. weight curve).
You might be a little too smart for this stuff farkwad lol
 
All yale 11.7s with poly/poly construction are 1.4%@10%MBS. Lets move on. The real differences are in the dyes. They just make the ropes feel different and last differently. But stretch is identical. Runners can run different too.
 
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